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11-12-2008, 10:45 AM
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Master Gunner
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CO
Posts: 484
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The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means--
(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as--
(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;
(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
(iv) Colt AR-15;
(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
(vii) Steyr AUG;
(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
(iii) a bayonet mount;
(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and
(v) a grenade launcher;
(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;
(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and
(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and
(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.’.
31) The term ‘large capacity ammunition feeding device'--
(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; but
(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.'.
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Last edited by Digger2; 11-12-2008 at 01:15 PM.
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11-12-2008, 01:07 PM
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Master Armorer
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: az
Posts: 1,203
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Holly dog crap, that list is long. illegal to manufacture, transfer, or possess. Well if that passes we can oficially do away with the BATFE we can just call them BAT firearms and explosives will be a thing of the past and can rightly dropped off the beaurs title.
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11-12-2008, 01:33 PM
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Depot Level Armorer
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 3,397
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Pirate's got the right idea about that, with one thing I'd add. In addition to raising a war chest for going after ANY politician that votes for this in the next election, we also need one for hiring the biggest bank of lawyers money can buy, to tie up EVERY attempt at any type of AWB in court for the next 4 years (until it can be overturned) or until enough people have had enough and some state(s) secede and we have somewhere to go to, guns and all.
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11-12-2008, 01:50 PM
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JMB Devotee
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Phoenix area, AZ
Posts: 1,908
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we need to organize marches on the state capitols to contest this shit openly and loudly, if the turd burglars can do it why the hell cant we.
In each of our states, as many people as we can round up and all on the same day - that should get some attention.
GR
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11-12-2008, 02:41 PM
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Apprentice Armorer
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Reno, Nevada
Posts: 95
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That looks to be a straight re-authoring of the 94 ban. I suspect it won't go anywhere - keep an eye on it. Write your reps!
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11-12-2008, 02:43 PM
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Apprentice Armorer
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 97
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Forget the state caps, I think we could easily get a million to march on Washington. Could you imagine the impact of a million or so, law abiding citizens with a firearm slung over their shoulder? There are restrictions due to the National Park status of the mall. It's a little fuzzy as to whether the firearm can just be unloaded, or must be 'disabled'. Even if it must be disabled, that's what zip ties are for. Think I'm gonna start looking into this! Anyone else in?
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11-12-2008, 02:47 PM
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Master Armorer
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 1,129
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Read the fine print. . .
This bill was introduced in June of this year - well before the election - by a Republican and co-sponsored by four other Republicans. It hasn't yet emerged from committee and I'm guessing it never will. It looks to me like an attempt to limit the damage of a new ban as much as possible.
The Democrats will come up with something much more draconian if they are stupid or nothing at all if they are not. I'm betting on the former.
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11-12-2008, 03:12 PM
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JMB Devotee
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Phoenix area, AZ
Posts: 1,908
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maybe we could get a million to march on washington, i dont know, but many like myself could not make the trip across the US because our money trees arent blooming well at the moment. However each of our respective state capitols are fully in reach and theres no great excuse to not attend. An armed protest would NOT be a great idea to me, it would give an excuse to use force to disperse the crowd and label us domestic terrorists from the start. If any agency used hostile action with rubber bullets/tear gas etc against a peaceful unarmed protest - that would be the best recruitment video for our cause that could ever be made and it would be played on most all major networks for free.
We need to send a message, for now it NEEDS to be peaceful but loud, we need to reach across all the gun forums and have flyers announcing the date in every gun shop.
GR
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11-12-2008, 03:41 PM
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Master Armorer
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: southwest michigan
Posts: 1,176
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If you want to do a million man armed march on D.C., there will be the first million guns confiscated. Protests work if the media is on board with your cause.
Gun owners need to tighten up the ranks in order to survive. Political parties answer to money and voters. Pro gun organizations hire the lobbists that roam the halls of our state and national capitals. We all need to consider contributing to 1 or more of these organizations. $50 or $100 to each is not out of the question. Contributing is but one step, contacting your elected officals is the other. Telephone, email, even attending public meetings that they hold in there districts. Keep the pressure on them to not pass this kind of stuff.
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