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Did anyone on the board buy the 1917A1 from IMA. I was looking at it
yesterday and went back to save the pictures today and it appears that IMA sold it because it is no longer on the website..

It had a 17A1 bottom plate, a brass barrel bushing ( bushing looked new made). Brass endcap on the water jacket. It was mounted on what they said was a deck gun mount or one for a vehicle.

Im almost sure the leaf is incorrect.

The pictures will no longer blow up on the IMA page below ,but I took the word thumbs out from the URL and they enlarged.







http://www.ima-usa.com/images/ON0033-7.jpg

http://www.ima-usa.com/images/ON0033-3.jpg

http://www.ima-usa.com/images/ON0033-4.jpg

It still comes up under the google cache search but not the regular way.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:...435+1917+machine+gun&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8
 

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Why not just buy a real firing semi-auto 1928 watercooled for $2450 instead of $2795 for an inert display gun? Actually the better deal is get the gun, with tripod, water can, water hose, ammo box, 3 belts and belt loader for $3850. The water can, belt loader, ammobox, and tripod would easily bring about $2250, so you're getting the watercooled for around $1600.


http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/colt.htm (OOW semi-auto 1928 watercooled)
 

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Mostly out of curiosity I was wondering if it was a 1917 water jacket (minus trunnion protector) or a 1928. I dont know how long it was for sale,but yes the price was a high.

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I didn't buy it. So go with the 28 or get Ohioblacksheep conversion for the M1919A4.
 

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Looks like a 1928 rear sight to me. Not sure about the jacket. The top of the trunnion would tell. Steel insert = 1928. If it had enough genuine 1917 parts on it, it would be worth it. That does not seem to be the case though. You can't put a price on a 1917 water jacket right now.
 

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1928 Water Jacket

I bought a 1928 jacket from OOW a couple of years ago. I guess you can only get them with the kit these days.



I bought a complete 1928 top cover from OOW at the same time. I just didnt think the leaf looked close enought to a 17 so I sent it back. It was $350 and it was in Ex condition.

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Yep, that's the word. OOW will NOT sell water jackets separately anymore. Gotta buy the whole kit. I have a 1928 LSP with bottom plate attached and a jacket I got 18 months ago. Have a couple 1928 bolts too. Just not enough to complete a proper 1928. I am going to have to get a complete kit one day, tripod and all. Am using the jacket for a "1917A1" build. Have everything but the time!
 

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I was at the Philadelphia Armory Gun Show last weekend, and they have a 1917 water cooled on display in a small case in the lobby. It was on the tripod, had the can flash hider, and a bunch of accessories. Ill see if I can take a photo next time im there.
 

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That's not a '28 water jacket, the muzzle gland is different for a '28 as seen in this pic of mine.

 

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I think the muzzle gland is newly manufactured. It looks to new/smooth and there is nowhere for the flashider to clip on.

For some reason the steam hose attach point looks different in the picture than my 28, but it could just be the picture. I cant see the screws to hold it on either. With out looking it up again I believe they were supposed to be riveted on. So it could be a Model 17 jacket?

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Hey lobo, you shoulda brought that gland up to Gary's and re parked it! :D
 
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