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a few 1919 questions? (56k no) with pics.

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I know how my ar-15 works, I can see how all the parts go together and what happens when the trigger is pulled, I also know how my ak's, sks, mosins, mausers, m1 carbines etc. I see how they all work, but the 1919 still has me baffled as to how it works in a semi configuration, what keeps it from running away as a full auto, what resets the trigger and sear to stop it, why is there no hammer, what trips the firing pin basically how does it work, I have been studying here for a few months and have taken my 1919 apart numerous times and tried to imagine it functiong, I see how some of it works, but the firing pin and sear baffle me, and then we come to these

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sorry for all the questions, but I am trying to learn it and have read everything I can get ahold of and still am somewhat confrused.
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Wow - let's see if I can do this easily.

1] Yes it is link wear and tear on trunnion

2] Yes - that is the cocking lever that cocks firing pin on rearward stroke of bolt, where it then locks into sear.

3] Forward one is Front cartridge stop - rear one is .308 spacer, only used for 7.62 Nato configuration

4] Yes, that keeps pressure between cartridges and they are fed and locks the belt or linked ammo into trunnion area.

5] Trigger engages the slot shown - upon pulling triger sear is lifted upwards, disengaging the firing pin from the sear, allowing it (FP) to move forward and strike primer.

6] The pin has a slot in the far left end that spreads to create tension in the holes. After doing that it will not come loose.

7] That is an inspection hole that was put in Izzy guns for checking either timing or headspacing, I'm not sure on that one. It is seldom used in the Semi Auto configurationas far as I know.

Hope this helps a little - I'm sure others will add to this as they read it. :)
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Let me see if I can shed a little light here.

Pic #1 Perfectly normal trunnion wear. Get a trunnion protector if you want to but be aware that in some weapons the cause more problems than they fix. Ever see a GI issue trunnion protector?

Pic #2 Yep, it has a lot to do with cocking the weapon, in fact its the cocking lever.It only gos in one way.

Pic #3 These are your .308 feedway SPACERS. The one in the middle is the belt stop pawl. Without it you wil spend more time cleaning dirt off your ammo than shooting it.

Pic #4 Ah, I see you have an ORF weapon! In a FA 1919 the tip if the trigger bar has a set of cams on it that drop the sear as soon as the bolt is fully closed. Your sear is a GI sear with a strip of spring steel rivered to it. When the bolt closes the tip of the trigger catches on the spring , which bends backwards actind as a disconnector. Dont get too attached to this spring.

Pic #5 is the belt stop pawl pin. It is retained by the friction of the split end. Usualy.The tips sometimes break or get worn alowing the pin to slide out due to recoil. See above"dirty ammo"

Pic #6 This hole is to install a grease fitting in the event that your weapon if functioning sliugishly. I notice yours isnt tapped.

Pic #7 I see your weapon has internal parts. Good.

Pic #8. Someone has stolen your A6 butstock. Damn, some people are just low.

Hope this helps, Dutch
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Two great mionds posting at the same time, huh, Terry?

OK, I lied about the grease fitting. Gimme a break, its dull around here today
Thanks for the answers, how can you tell its a orf gun just from the pictures? Which spring strip are you talking about not getting attached to, Do I need to upgrade the internals to the kmp kind I hear everyone talking about, whats wrong with the orf ones? And yes as a matter of fact someone did STEAL the a6 stock, and it was someone from on here, but the problem is I cant remember who it was cause I usualy have done trust on most of my deals on the internet and never ever been done wrong, cept the time I sent my a6 stock for the 1919 to someone in exchange for 200 links and, well I never got any links or any other correspondence from them, and I never really thought about it again until you just said something and then I remembered I had never gotten my links from whoever I sent the stock to. Guess ya live and learn:eek: I appreciate all the help you have done for me. THANKS
Dutch what would I ever do without your knowledge and SOH?? :D

The ORF gun uses a different sear than the KMP sear - it's an abvious difference that one can see right away. Easily remedied from Tomt as he has kmp sears that drop in to the bolt without further work on it.

Sorry to hear about the buttstock - that doesn't happen often in here, but I guess there are a few exceptions.

Now....about that grease fitting......where can I get one? :D :D
Who is tomt and how do I get ahold of him, I want buy some new quality internals for her and go ahead and replace them.
rak1004 said:
Who is tomt and how do I get ahold of him, I want buy some new quality internals for her and go ahead and replace them.

That would be TomT at Karma Metal Products.

For some reason I cant find his adress here on the site. Didnt it used to be on here? BradatGunThings has them too, as do a few others.; Its not a drop in for ORF or Hess (spit) sears ,though. You will need to either weld up the sear slot and remachine or use a new bolt.

In all fairness to ORF, I have seen their weapons in some cases work flawlessly for thousands of rounds. The KMP is just a better set up, IMO
brassmagnet said:
Dutch what would I ever do without your knowledge and SOH?? :D

Even being the mental Giant that I am (trapped in this derelict body) I'm drawing a blank as to what SOH could possibly stand for. All I can come up with is Syphiulis Or Hepatitus. If you think I got it, I respect your diagnosis. I just dread the thought of turning yellow and breaking out in chancres. Again

Now....about that grease fitting......where can I get one? :D :D

Glad you asked that. Dutch Master Productions just happens to carry an ample stock of NOS GI grease fittings that fit the 1919 series perfectly. These are also adaptable for use on the rare Clinton Fighting Vehicle . Few examples of the CFV exist due to the project being scrapped because of military budget cuts.
Rak1004, check your PMs
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