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so i was strolling through bulletfest and what did i see but something that looked like a spring actuated bumpfire device for a 1919. so i looked a bit more and sure enough it was. at that point i was like WTF that cant be legal. i started talking to one of the people around their tent and he said that it was BATF approved. it's a spade grip setup w/ a paddle trigger that actuated the original trigger. when the gun fires it compresses two springs and recoils rearward away from the "new" trigger allowing the "old" trigger to reset. at this point the springs overcome the rearward thrust of the recoil and push the gun forward thus puching the new trigger into the old trigger and firing another round.

i still had a hard time beliving that BATFE let this fly, but the woman at the tent was kind enough to show me the approval letter. The letter did say that it was NOT a MG.

personally i'm still a bit skeptical that the ATF won't re-classify it but if they dont all i can say is wow

their website is a bit lacking but there is a vid of it on the pics page
http://www.aw-sim.com/
 

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just got back from day 1 of BULLETFEST 7......AND BOY WAS THE WEATHER OPPERSIVE, humidity had to be 100 percent.....but I'm ready for day 2 :D.....I didn't see the 1919, but I did see a AK set up like that, it was right next to me...........looked to be a AMD. yeah I kinda scratched my head looking at it as well. hard not to when the ATF says a shoe string is machine gun
 

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the 1919 was to the right (looking toward the targets) of the ak. actually there were 2 1919's w/ the device one was on a mg3 mount.

You arent kidding about the humidity. It was the reason I only stayed for a hour.
 

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The AK version looks a little over engineered to me. :cool:

Pricey, too...:eek:

Though, if this has approval, a "special" stock I'm designing for my BW5 should be legal.
 

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I just got back from range testing my BW5 and the prototype bump fire device for it.

It's made from aluminum tubing, copper pipe, copper clad circuit board, aluminum strap, wood, JB Weld and, I **** you not, a piece of an old license plate.

Damn thing works, too. Not as good as the AK version, but not too bad. I dumped a bunch of mags in three to ten round bursts.

Now that I have the prototype running, I need to make a more solid version out of steel.

Then comes the "special" stock...:D
 

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I'm the guy who makes the AW-SIM and just got back from Bulletfest. Thanks none123 and all for your comments.

I know more about guns than websites and I know the website is crude, but I'm working on it. I mainly wanted to put it out there with the video and get your feedback . . .

I've got the approval letter and can send it to anyone who inquires. Actually, the device I sent BATF was the one I was using on the AK this weekend. If they deemed it illegal, they wouldn't have sent it back?

I'm just trying to get this up and running, so I appreciate your comments.
 

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hi guys ,I to just got back from bulletfest had a great time . I want to thank camppybob & his crew & the snod farm for bulletfest.
about this post looking forward to setting my1919 up on aw-sim that I got at the fest he let me run a short belt in his gun it worked great . it was one of those thing ,I just had to get right now. I like my e jones crankfire but i think it go to get dustty in my safe now
 

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I just got some more info from AW-SIM. I just have to convince the wife I need this. This thing is unreal, I love America!
 

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That video is da bomb, I really want one too.....need a tripod first though.
 

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Cpt_Kirks said:
I just got back from range testing my BW5 and the prototype bump fire device for it.

It's made from aluminum tubing, copper pipe, copper clad circuit board, aluminum strap, wood, JB Weld and, I **** you not, a piece of an old license plate.

Damn thing works, too. Not as good as the AK version, but not too bad. I dumped a bunch of mags in three to ten round bursts.

Now that I have the prototype running, I need to make a more solid version out of steel.

Then comes the "special" stock...:D
Do you have any pics?
 

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Is this Kalifornia legal? I know that crankfires are not, but those activate the trigger differently.
well since your finger is no longer on the trigger. this IS a trigger device and there for not Kali + a few other states legal.
 

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I saw the AW-Sim at Bulletfest and it looks like a winner. Was hoping to try it (AW-Sim invited me over ) just didn't happen.

It was hot, humid and muddy at Bulletfest. The real pain was having to carry all my stuff over and back. Had a good time though. Weather is usually challenging at Bulletfest. I heard it rained 3 inches Friday nite.
 

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Now I?m just curious and I know there is perhaps no answer to this question. If I purchase one and the BATF reclassifies it, what?s the chance the existing ones would be grandfathered?
 

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I sent an e-mail to the company Saturday and hope to receive a reply to my questions. When I receive any comments, I will let you guys know what they have to say. This is an interesting concept, but I want to make sure it is 100% legal to own.

OldSoldier,

I have the same questions about them being "Grandfathered" if ATF changes their mind. Considering an approval for now, there may not be any problem, but I want to see the letter first.

Edit - So far this afternoon Ihave not heard anything from the company. The odd thing is there is no phone number, address, etc, only an e-mail address?????
 

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holy sh** the video is great!

I gotta get one of these!!!! If that device has the proper letter, i want and need one now! To he** with cranks ,this looks great. I already contacted them to purchase one.
 

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Abwehr . . . I didn't get home from Bulletfest until last night. I have responded to all the emails I received over the weekend, so if you haven't gotten a reply, I apologize. I'm happy to send a copy of the approval letter, so please contact me again.
 

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Steve (AW-SIM) let me fire his 1919 with the AW-SIM set up at the last day of BULLETFEST. I took a 100 round belt and we timed the cyclic rate...........100 rounds in 15 seconds, which would put it at 400 rounds per minute, and it fired without so much as a hiccup, .....that is very, very close to what a 20K 1919 transferable MG will do.......it was "awesome"!! :D

BTW the weather wasn't at all bad on sat. like it was on friday, it was actually pleasant, with a slight breeze evry now and again......no where near the stifling humidity like the previous day.
 
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