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...you betcha....

Yep....won't last long at that price. Just the parts alone are worth that....even though its missing the feed guide. Just emailed the guy and advised him that I have feed guides. We'll see what happens.....
 

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Saw two on ebay in last week, both ended today. I got one :D

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...sid=m37&satitle=190222219264&category0=&fvi=1


Case is beat up, but the loader itself appears to be in pretty good shape. Deal or no?

Now, I thought a 10 day DROS was bad, this beauty is coming by seamail.

:eek:

I can wait....:p


My point being (other than braggin rights I hope) is that this indicates a trend on the upstart.
 

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Saw two on ebay in last week, both ended today. I got one :D

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...sid=m37&satitle=190222219264&category0=&fvi=1


Case is beat up, but the loader itself appears to be in pretty good shape. Deal or no?

Now, I thought a 10 day DROS was bad, this beauty is coming by seamail.

:eek:

I can wait....:p


My point being (other than braggin rights I hope) is that this indicates a trend on the upstart.

Did you get your ATF Form 6 approved for importing it? Some will say it is needed.
 

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Did you get your ATF Form 6 approved for importing it? Some will say it is needed.
Interesting, from what I have found via google, this applied to firearms and ammunition, which this is neither. But, we all know that sometimes it comes down to the definition of is. Going to make a call or two tomorrow I guess.

:rolleyes:
 

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Interesting, from what I have found via google, this applied to firearms and ammunition, which this is neither. But, we all know that sometimes it comes down to the definition of is. Going to make a call or two tomorrow I guess.

:rolleyes:

It also applies to importation of military firearm and weapon goods, parts, ect.. For example one needs the form to just import a barrel that was military origin (which they are not approving any longer, at least for now). Customs may or maynot stop it at the LA or OAK terminal, but there is always that risk. If they do, you will loose the goods without the form. I would gamble they will let it go thru, but then I don't have $600 on line.
 

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Yup, it was confirmed that a Form 6 is needed, but only a licensed importer or FFL can do this. Guess I know why there was such little action on it now. Got a couple of FFLs I can call, one is very 1919 friendly. Hoping he can help me out or otherwise.....

I agree on the gamble though.... my problem is that I don't often.

ETA: Thanks for the heads up though, I would have never even considered that this would be a worry had you not said something.
 

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Just remember that there are exemptions to the requirement for a permit, at least when dealing with parts and accessories. The CFR states:

c) A permit is not required for the importation of—
(1)(i) The U.S. Munitions Import List articles from Canada, except articles enumerated in Categories I, II, III, IV, VI(e), VIII(a), XVI, and XX; and
(ii) Nuclear weapons strategic delivery systems and all specifically designed components, parts, accessories, attachments, and associated equipment thereof (see Category XXI); or
(2) Minor components and parts for Category I(a) and I(b) firearms, except barrels, cylinders, receivers (frames) or complete breech mechanisms, when the total value does not exceed $100 wholesale in any single transaction.
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Key word is "wholesale" vs "retail".
 

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Well, further research shows this might not even be an issue afterall. Per section 120.8 of ITAR, "significant military equipment" is defined as being listed on the munitions list and having either a R&D cost of greater than $50,000,000 or a total production cost of greater than $200,000,000.

I would seriously doubt the 1918 qualifies under these definitions. Reading backwards tracked back to these regs. So, guess it's on. :p

I am waiting for confirmation that I read this right from other sources.
 

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Well, further research shows this might not even be an issue afterall. Per section 120.8 of ITAR, "significant military equipment" .....
Way off track here.

The law basically says anything on the "US. Munition Import List" requires approval for importation. There are some exception as was noted earlier.

§ 447.41 Permit requirement.

(a) Articles on the U.S. Munitions Import List will not be imported into the United States except pursuant to a permit under this subpart. For articles subject to control under parts 478 or 479 of this chapter, a separate permit is not necessary.
Now looking at the current import list shows the pertainent section for your situation...

§ 447.21 The U.S. Munitions Import List

The U.S. Munitions List compiled by the Department of State, Office of Defense Trade Controls, and published at 22 CFR 121.1, with the deletions indicated, has been adopted as an enumeration of the defense articles subject to controls under this part. The expurgated list, set out below, shall, for the purposes of this part, be known as the U.S. Munitions Import List:
The U.S. Munitions Import List
category i—firearms

(a) Nonautomatic and semiautomatic firearms, to caliber .50 inclusive, combat shotguns, and shotguns with barrels less than 18 inches in length, and all components and parts for such firearms.
(b) Automatic firearms and all components and parts for such firearms to caliber .50 inclusive.
(c) Insurgency-counterinsurgency type firearms of other weapons having a special military application (e.g. close assault weapons systems) regardless of caliber and all components and parts for such firearms.
(d) Firearms silencers and suppressors, including flash suppressors.
(e) Riflescopes manufactured to military specifications and specifically designed or modified components therefor.
Note: Rifles, carbines, revolvers, and pistols, to caliber .50 inclusive, combat shotguns, and shotguns with barrels less than 18 inches in length are included under Category I(a). Machineguns, submachineguns, machine pistols and fully automatic rifles to caliber .50 inclusive are included under Category I(b).
category ii—artillery projectors
(a) Guns over caliber .50, howitzers, mortars, and recoiless rifles.
(b) Military flamethrowers and projectors.
(c) Components, parts, accessories, and attachments for the articles in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this category, including but not limited to mounts and carriages for these articles.
category iii—ammunition
(a) Ammunition for the arms in Categories I and II of this section.
(b) Components, parts, accessories, and attachments for articles in paragraph (a) of this category, including but not limited to cartridge cases, powder bags, bullets, jackets, cores, shells (excluding shotgun shells), projectiles, boosters, fuzes and components therefor, primers, and other detonating devices for such ammunition.
(c) Ammunition belting and linking machines.
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/tex...:3.0.1.2.2;idno=27;cc=ecfr#27:3.0.1.2.2.3.1.1
 

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Yup, I can't even track back how I got to where I was reading last night. I guess I got too hung up on 121.1 and must have tracked back to 120 but apparently a whole different context. Good thing I kept the papers I had filled out, just need to send them off now, but it looks good by previous posts. These things are all over the US market as well from what I have seen, so doubtful there is any reason to think it should not be approved. At least that's my hope ;)

Thanks for pointing me back in the right direction.
 
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