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Anyone heard anything about notifications for the lucky ones?
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Nothing for me yet. They did put up a new post a few weeks ago stating its going to take longer to sort it all out and everyone to get a number who put in for one. They also stated there was only about 17k applications a few days before the deadline so maybe we will get one this year or next year's batch.
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Pretty much what I thought 17K packages and something less than 8K pistols as some will be auctioned off.
We're like like Ralphie waiting for the Red Rider BB gun!
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Maybe its just me but I don't get it. Its basically like signing a blank check as you don't really have much of an idea of what you are buying. Then the price is only ok unless you happen to get a real nice one... that is unlikely because they will auction the real nice ones off...
Frankly this all seems a bit crazy to me. I mean sure if I could get a good WWI 1911 for that price, I would be happy. However some mis-matched WWI-WWII gun with some pitting... no thanks. A 1970s target gun, no interest here... Maybe I will be wrong and will have missed out but I don't know I see this as some great thing. Its certainly no Garand deal where you could get a used Garand for about half price of a new one and have your gun be USGI.
Frankly this all seems a bit crazy to me. I mean sure if I could get a good WWI 1911 for that price, I would be happy. However some mis-matched WWI-WWII gun with some pitting... no thanks. A 1970s target gun, no interest here... Maybe I will be wrong and will have missed out but I don't know I see this as some great thing. Its certainly no Garand deal where you could get a used Garand for about half price of a new one and have your gun be USGI.
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All of the CMP's prices are now basically market value. They are no longer a bargain or an investment. As stated earlier, its a total crap shoot as to what you may receive. Ive received 1 nice Garand, 1 'ok' Garand (required a new sear the wood was soaked in cosomoline) and a 1903 that was an absolute boat anchor. The rear site was bent to hell and the BBL was totally shot out. You are better off going to a gun show and paying 50 bucks more to actually see what you are buying. Buddies of mine were salivating at the chance to drop 1000 bucks on a surplus 1911.......I appreciate the history of the item, but the prices are just way too high for my tastes. (Especially when I still see US property marked guns selling for 700 bucks locally)
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Yup I agree - thought about it for a nano second and dismissed the urge to go this route for one......
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For $1K I can buy a pretty nice modern 1911 that is accurate, adjustable sights, other bells and whistles, etc. And yes, CMP pricing is about market value now. The CMP's core mission isn't selling firearms but education and marksmanship training focused on youth.
If your purchase is at market value and those funds go towards promoting the future of our sport, in my opinion, it's a good deal. It also seems having CMP paperwork with an associated firearm meant increased value (historically anyway).
The current batch of pistols made available are supposed to be a higher grade. The CMP selected these as future pistols are not guaranteed in the future. It will be interesting to see what pricing does if more pistols are made available for sale.
If your purchase is at market value and those funds go towards promoting the future of our sport, in my opinion, it's a good deal. It also seems having CMP paperwork with an associated firearm meant increased value (historically anyway).
The current batch of pistols made available are supposed to be a higher grade. The CMP selected these as future pistols are not guaranteed in the future. It will be interesting to see what pricing does if more pistols are made available for sale.
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Well its good to see that I am not the only crazy one or at least I am in good company!
If thats CMP's core mission, then why do they get guns not really ideal for marksmanship? I don't know... it seems like we are buying guns we already paid for once... might as well come discounted. I would much rather see them drop the price and limit to 1 gun per person. I agree its kind of crazy to see some of these guys. I ran into one a while back with 99 Garands (and telling me he can't afford a MG) all bought from CMP. Now this does not seem to help anything other than him. As far as the money going to promote the future of our sport... to be frank, I think much of the money is wasted on youth programs. I simply don't see the return around here. There are very few current shooters at our club that were involved in the youth programs. I feel like we should be targeting young adults who will develop a genuine interest in the sport and they are at an age to buy these firearms and have skin in the game. I feel like much of the youth programs around here go to keeping kids from being bored but do little to retain people in the sports when they become adults. Not that I have a big issue with them, I just don't know I see it working... However I think reaching out to 18-24 year olds would prove much more useful in growing the sports. Places like CMP that could offer everyone a single Garand at $250 could really get a lot of young adults into the sport and C&R matches...etc. I also feel they push punching paper (target shooting with paper targets) and frankly that is just boring to many. Without interesting targets, its just not going to hold youth attention in mass... I guess thats my rant...
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yep, I passed on the 1911s as well, price was too high for my liking. Not really much there anymore after they ran out of surplus ammo.
These posts caused me to look up the record of my M1911. I purchased it from the DCM the precursor of the CMP back in March 1966 for $17.00 plus $2.85, packing and handling. It looked like a completely refinished gun. Yes it is a M1911 not an M1911A1. They sold them both but you had no choice as to what you would get. The gun came right out of Anniston Army Depot. The sale was recorded at Rock Island Arsenal.
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My father was not even of legal age to buy that gun in 1966! :rofl:
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First of all I don't see how they could have picked through 200,000 + pistols to get "higher grade" ones. What if they were packed away in cosmolene? How would they be able to tell if one is better than the other unless they degrease them first. If they were dry packed in VCI paper then they would still have to sort through them and I don't believe the CMP has the manpower to do that. I believe that is an unsubstantiated rumor.
They are guaranteed 10,000 a year although whether or not more are released remains to be seen but the door is open since they did get the first batch.
I do agree that the lowest price point is still way to high for a pig in a poke.
Yes that was a long time ago (over half a century) and the dollar was worth about six times what it is today. That would have been about $119.16 in todays money. Back then I was working my way through college at a $1.45 per hour job. I seldom had more than six dollars in my wallet. It would have been about two days wages to purchase that gun back then. Back a few years before that I picked up an M1 carbine for about $20.00. I never picked up on the 03A3 sale for $14.95. Of course things were cheaper then like gasoline at $0.25 a gallon and you could buy a new car $2,500.00. Those guns were sold to NRA members and it was understood they were not for resale but for the use of the person purchasing the gun. However after every such sale you could go to a gun show and suddenly a whole bunch of that particular gun would be there for sale for about twice the DCM price.
Back in the 90's I lucked out on a couple M1s (without wood) from the CMP at a reasonable price.You could only buy one a year back then but then things changed I guess and then price went way up.
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