[ME_Mike]

Everybody, please put your FN heads together and help me out with my FN identification nightmare...lol... ok, bad joke.

I have some FAL parts that I can't identify... Can anyone tell which guns they go to... Israeli?... Metric/inch?... etc... I would like to buy a receiver and start a rifle build. However, I want to make sure the rest of the parts I will purchase are compatable. Do these look like they were for the same kit or are they mix-and-match? Is this even something that can be determined through pics? Let me know if more info is needed...

Pictures run through the first 3 posts... (4 pic limit per post)

Thanks.

 

[ME_Mike]

One of the top covers had this marking on the inside (below)

 

[ME_Mike]

End of pics

 

[davemcf89]

As far as I know, the lower receivers and stock appear to be Israeli. I believe the barrel might be from a German G1 based on the crest and flash hider. Sorry - I'm not sure if all the parts will interchange. Hopefully someone that knows a lot more than me will chime in, or maybe you can do a search over at FALFiles. Good luck - you've got some nice parts there.

 

[alcova]

Second Pic is definately Izzy...Center Position of safety is safe, other 2 positions are fire ( Don't know which is Semi-auto and Full-auto ), and the buttstock is a light Izzy. I have a Izzy Heavy barrel on a standard DSA upper Receiver and a South African Lower as I didn't like the the Izzy Safety arrangment...most parts are interchangeable as long as you stay with the Metric Version...Inch parts have many parts that do not interchange with the metric. Strange as it seems, the metric version has all Inch Threads on it's parts EXCEPT the Izzy's which were threaded metric on the barrel ( not really sure about the other parts )

Walt

 

[gska3873]

FAL Parts (Not All)

The two lowers you have are Israeli lowers and are metric. The pistol grip is metric also. You have a mix of metric and Inch top covers. The ones with the tabs at the bottom on the back are Inch. The ones without the tabs are metric. The buttstock is an Izzy light barrel style buttstock (it takes the non rotational sling swivel. The barrel you have is NOT an FAL barrel. It is for an FN49 and will not work on building an FAL.

 

[Mouse]

The two lowers you have are Israeli lowers and are metric. The pistol grip is metric also. You have a mix of metric and Inch top covers. The ones with the tabs at the bottom on the back are Inch. The ones without the tabs are metric. The buttstock is an Izzy light barrel style buttstock (it takes the non rotational sling swivel. The barrel you have is NOT an FAL barrel. It is for an FN49 and will not work on building an FAL.

GSKA is correct, pretty much any current receiver you get will work with inch or metric, Inch parts are a little harder to find, Metrics are much more plentiful.

 

[B.A.R. gunner]

in the interest of keeping things accurate here, israeli barrels are not threaded with a metric thread, nor are they threaded with an inch pattern thread, but instead they are threaded with there own proprietary thread.
you usually have to buy a large metric die and chase the threads on the israeli barrels

you can screw an Israeli barrel into a metric receiver, but you WILL hose the threads on the receiver while doing so. You will force the threads on the barrel and the threads in the metric receiver to change to fit each other and you will have a ***** of a time getting the 2 seperated again once you get it torqued down. Most people just buy the die and chase the threads on the israeli barrel

 

[gska3873]

The factory threading on the Israeli barrels is a metric 25mmx1.5. You actually chase the threads to an english dimension of 1 inch diameter 16 tpi in order to fit an Israeli type barrel into the receivers that are most commonly available today. There are some receivers that are threaded metric for the Israeli barrels but they are hard to come by and will cost you.

 

[B.A.R. gunner]

i stand corrected
you are correct

been many years since i did mine, and i had to chase down the tool box to check it.
after looking at the die, it definately is a 1x16

 

[gska3873]

No disrespect was intended B.A.R. gunner so I hope it didn't come across that way. The only reason I knew what they where is I just built a HB Izzy FAL this past Thursday. It is my understanding that the Israeli barrels did have something different about there metric threads along the lines of having more of a taper to the threads at the start of them and less of a taper at the finish. Something about it making it easier to start the barrel and time easier on a receiver.

 

[KABAR2]

I may have missed it but the one top cover with the "D" with the little line in the middle that makes it look a little like a belt buckle is
English, it was manufactured at Enfield.

Allen<><

 

[B.A.R. gunner]

No disrespect was intended B.A.R. gunner so I hope it didn't come across that way.

heck no dude! I was wrong - plain and simple

its been about 7 or 8 years since i assembled my heavy barrel FALO and in the back of my mind i had to chase it with a metric die, but after you said that i pulled out my FAL tools and looked and sure enough, it was a 1x16 die. i knew the israeli barrel had its own proprietary thread that needed chased to fit a metric receiver, but i was thinking it needed chased by a metric thread.

im all about keeping the info as accurate as possible, and i was wrong, so i stand corrected, and i certainly didnt take offense at being told i was wrong - thank you for correcting me

 

[ME_Mike]

IMO you all have been very helpful. Thank you for not letting me embarrass myself by trying to mate a FN49 barrel with a FAL receiver.

But I have more riddles... well... more like questions. I've been looking at many pics of the FN49 online... but I'm far from being an FN49 expert... or a FAL expert for that matter. But...

...does this look like a hand guard for an FN49?

You guys kick arse!

 

[B.A.R. gunner]

that is a m1 carbine hand guard

made by rockola (RMC) for Quality manufacturing (Q)

 

[Rory]

hey mike what is tha tfn49 barrel cambered in?

if 8mm, are you interested in removing it from your collection?

i bought a misrepresented fn49 and will have to get a new barrel if i can

r

 

[B.A.R. gunner]

it most likely is 8mm. theyve been around for YEARS and cheap too.
http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.asp?chrProductSKU=52360

 

[Rory]

thanks bar,


what abotu you mike?

how about 25$ plus shipping is it is 8mm and in goos shape

 

[ME_Mike]

thanks bar,


what abotu you mike?

how about 25$ plus shipping is it is 8mm and in goos shape

I haven't thought about prices... yet. Allthough, I have had a few interested parties for the barrel. Rory, I need to make sure the people who have shown interest have the opportunity to purchase (as soon as the price is set) in the order that their PM's were received. However, I promise that if it is still available after they are given the opportunity that I will PM you will that same courtesy. Would that be fair?

It seems as though I've been completely wrong on my identification assumptions (I was so sure of myself). Thank god this forum has been so helpful.

 

[L999here]

....is it...?

Seems the proof on that FN barrel is a Belgium proof. It could be 8MM....but more likely to be a 30/06 or 7.65 Argentine. Have had parts for many of the FN49's and have a Luxenburg 30/06 in stock right now. Old world craftsmanship......