[Mr.Maim]

I've been looking for a field (meaning that I can transport it with my other field gear) cleaning rod / stuck round clearing rod for my 1919.

- I'd prefer it be collapsible

- I'd prefer that it either have a permanent "T" handle or a handle that unscrews so it can be hit with a mallet to clear a stuck round

- I'd like to have one that comes in some sort of pouch so I don't lose segments


I started looking at the Vietnam-era M16 buttstock cleaning rod sets but I think that the pivoting "T" handle would be an annoyance, also, I think it'd be too short for a 1919


?? - Will the M1 Garand buttstock cleaning kit have enough length for a 1919 barrel?

?? - There is a fixed "T" handle M1 Garand cleaning kit also available. Would that kit have enough length?

?? - Any other suggestions?

 

[gulf state gaurd]

Hunt down an original WW2 one peice cleaning rod used by the section leader to direct fire, etc. They get stored in the spare barrel case.

 

[glassmountains]

Hunt down an original WW2 one peice cleaning rod used by the section leader to direct fire, etc. They get stored in the spare barrel case.

I've got a few of these, if you need one PM me.

 

[Mr.Maim]

The M15-C64274A case and M7 5-pc cleaning rod set is for the 50 BMG correct?

EDIT: It is (answering myself)

It appears that the cleaning kit I am looking for is the early WWII 4-piece rod for the M1 Garand. The case ID is M1-C6573A

 

[Armorer]

The M10 cleaning rod set was issued post war for the M1 Garand but like other accessories it found a common use for other weapons which prior to that time had their own cleaning rods. like the M1 Carbine, BAR and Browning .30 calibers and even the M60. The M10 has a slotted rod tip and four rod sections and a handle/combination tool that screwed on to a section of the rod. Later versions used with the M60 had a handle only without the combination tool feature. Later cleaning rods did not have a removable handle but had a handle that pivoted flat against the rod. As originally issued the M10 came with a small nylon washer that was placed over the rod section that attached to the handle, apparently to protect the muzzle. The M10 was issued with a small cloth carrying case that held the rod sections and a bore brush. The ratchet chamber brush was carried separately as it would not fit in the butt of the M1 Rifle.
The same chamber brush was later issued for the BAR and Browning M1919A4/A6 and had part number 7790582. Not to be confused with the M60 chamber brush 7790452 or the M14 chamber brush 7790463. The part number was cast into the back of the plastic ratchet assembly. The M14 did not use the same chamber brush as the M60 as it was designed to fit in the Handle/combination tool of the cleaning rod set and stored in the butt of the stock.

I know ask simple question and get more information than you bargained for.

Forgot to mention the four sections of the M10 rod measure 23 inches. The slotted tip adds three inches. And if that were not enough add an additional section to the rod they are all interchangeable.

 

[Mr.Maim]

Thanks for the info, you can never provide too much information!

It appears that the M10 Tool, "Rod, Cleaning, Jointed Cal. .30, M10, For Rifle, U.S. Cal. .30, M1" is the rod that comes as part of the M1 Garand buttstock cleaning kit. There are several on GB. I'm going to order one just to have it.

Still trying to find the correct kit that was created to service the 1919.

 

[Mr.Maim]

Forgot to mention the four sections of the M10 rod measure 23 inches. The slotted tip adds three inches. And if that were not enough add an additional section to the rod they are all interchangeable.

Excellent addition to your post, thank you Armorer. The measurements are immensely helpful!

 

[Mr.Maim]

A quick follow up: Bill Ricca has an excellent page devoted to the M10 cleaning rod/kit here: http://www.billricca.com/m10_identification.htm

I decided to pick up an M10 cleaning kit for the M1 Garand that'll go in my 1919 "go bag".

I'll eventually add an M8 4-section cleaning rod to my collection in the future.

I'll post pics in a follow-up post.

 

[Armorer]

After viewing the article I dug around and found two unopened packages of M10 rods. They have the typical GI wrap of foil lined white fabric. On the outside they list the contents

The complete set has FSN 1005-674-1425

Contents
1 Brush 1005-550-4035 (.30 cal bore)
1 Case 1005-797-3377
1 Case 1005-650-4510
1 Rod 1005-716-2920
1 Grease 9150-248-3480
1 Brush 1005-691-1381 (Chamber .30 Cal)

I am not sure what the cases are but I assume one is the cloth case for the rod and the other is the oil bottle.
The rod is in 4 sections a handle and a swab holder but they just list it as "Rod".
The "Grease" is the small container of grease shown in the pictures.

As the article stated the components could be ordered separately and that is how I remember most of them being issued for the M60s. The rod sections came in a black
cardboard tube and the handles came in a brown paper package with FSN "1005-793-6761 Handle Assembly 1EA" and the sample I have also has the number DA-19-058-AMC-7931(W).
The package is dated April 1966.

There is nothing to indicate the "buffer" is included but it probably was. Another thing not mentioned in the article and maybe only issued with the M14 kit was a short piece of tubing that the threaded end of the swab holder went into on one end and the threaded end of the bore brush went in the other end. It is 1-3/8 inch long.This was to insure they would not double up in the limited space in the cloth case.

 

[Mr.Maim]

After viewing the article I dug around and found two unopened packages of M10 rods. They have the typical GI wrap of foil lined white fabric. On the outside they list the contents

The complete set has FSN 1005-674-1425

Contents
1 Brush 1005-550-4035 (.30 cal bore)
1 Case 1005-797-3377
1 Case 1005-650-4510
1 Rod 1005-716-2920
1 Grease 9150-248-3480
1 Brush 1005-691-1381 (Chamber .30 Cal)

I am not sure what the cases are but I assume one is the cloth case for the rod and the other is the oil bottle.
The rod is in 4 sections a handle and a swab holder but they just list it as "Rod".
The "Grease" is the small container of grease shown in the pictures.

As the article stated the components could be ordered separately and that is how I remember most of them being issued for the M60s. The rod sections came in a black
cardboard tube and the handles came in a brown paper package with FSN "1005-793-6761 Handle Assembly 1EA" and the sample I have also has the number DA-19-058-AMC-7931(W).
The package is dated April 1966.

There is nothing to indicate the "buffer" is included but it probably was. Another thing not mentioned in the article and maybe only issued with the M14 kit was a short piece of tubing that the threaded end of the swab holder went into on one end and the threaded end of the bore brush went in the other end. It is 1-3/8 inch long.This was to insure they would not double up in the limited space in the cloth case.

100% correct. The contents of the cleaning kit are detailed in the Tools and Equipment section of TM-9-1005-223-10 ( http://www.liberatedmanuals.com/TM-9-1005-223-10.pdf ) specifically on pages 113-115 of the (PDF version) manual (Appendix B pp. 9-11). The "Case 1005-797-3377" is the lubricant case, and the "Case 1005-650-4510" is the cloth case that the cleaning rod segments go into.