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I have a maxim kit with left side plate. The plate has dovetails on it plus a piece of side plate with dovetail. I will send photo’s on request as I have edited the size of the photo’s to fit. I am asking $1400 for this kit as it is in good shape and the water jacket is in good condition. If FTF I will sale the mount too as I am not going to ship it. Just add $400 to the price.




 

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anyone know where i can get a registered side plate for this so i can buy it and this kit?

Ha... good luck! There are only a few real Russian registered side plates from what I have heard. So getting just a plate is not possible. Now you could convert a MG08 sideplate but finding that plate is extremely hard to impossible. Maybe a Erb plate if you are really lucky! Even then you are probably looking at a $12K-$18K sideplate and then another few $k for the conversion that only Bob Naess does (That I know of).

So as far as a Transferable sideplate... if you have to ask... don't its not going to happen.

Now if you go for a post sample... I think AA did one and now has it cut up on Gunbroker.
 

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Last time I spoke with BOB at black river he did indeed have registered transferable sideplates for this gun . Just give him a call .

You could also build as a semi if allowed in your state . At least two members here have semi parts . I bought semi right plate (ffl item) and the semi parts along with a nice pictorial for the build from one of them and its a pretty straight forward build .
 

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YOu could build it into a semi. There is a guy north of Indy ( hint hint) that has done one and is working on his second one. I have been very happy with my semi. Runs and shoots great and somewhat easier to build than the Vickers.
 

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There is also a mg08 side plate on sturm for sale currently for $8k
Where is that?

I saw a MG08/15 for $6k but thats no MG08 plate? They are completely different and the 08/15 plate can not go on a 1910... I am pretty sure.

Yeah if anyone would have a plate its Bob... I am betting it will cost you a very pretty Penny if he does have one. I know Bob has a real 1910 but I did not know of any sideplate forsale... He is a member here, hopefully he will set us straight.
 

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08 plate

helluva deal is all relative. I paid $6500 for a complete trans. 1910 built off an ERB 08 plate. Was fun when 54R was dirt cheap and plentiful. As for the sturmgewehr ad,For sure it was a MG08,not the hideous 08-15.
 

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Yeah I'm going by todays prices. Thats the first 08 plate I have heard of for sale in years. What section was it in? I check that board all the time... must have missed it.

$6500... yeah I mean I would not think twice about that if I got that deal. However those days are long gone! Today the parts kits alone are going for $1500! I would say that plate is work every bit of $11K alone...

Its odd that an 08 and an 08/15 ERB side plate at the same time. I mean they are pretty hard to find and for them both at once...

helluva deal is all relative. I paid $6500 for a complete trans. 1910 built off an ERB 08 plate. Was fun when 54R was dirt cheap and plentiful. As for the sturmgewehr ad,For sure it was a MG08,not the hideous 08-15.
 

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Received a post that my name was being tossed aobut in reference to russian maxims. here's the scoop as I know it.

There have never been any original registered sideplates for the 1910s for a very simple reason: there are only 7 verified orignal 1910s in the registry, and one 1905. I know where 6of them are from having tracked them over many years, and two are in my collection. One was acquired many years ago and the other recently as a DEWAT. The seventh is still unverified.
ATF gave me an approval many years ago to alter MG08 sideplates to fit the receiver dimensions of the 1910, which is fairly close, but the 08 plates require quite a bit of alteration to fit. I also asked for the same variance with 08/15 sideplates but was denied. 08/15 plates are half the length of an 08, and 1mm thinner, which really doesn't matter, but requiring almost half of the plate to be added, which in ATF's eyes constituted making a new machine gun. Be aware that there are at least six registerd 1910s that have been built using 08/15 serial numbers, or plates, all of which are contraband due to ATF's denial of a variance. I know of these 08/15 1910s, having talked with the makers who went ahead and made them anyway after asking if it was legal, and being told NO!
In the last ten years or so I have built about 30 transferable 1910s using registered 08 sideplates. There are at least a half dozen 1910s built on 08 plates by others. Many of the 08s I used for these plates were in very poor condition. I've been thrashed for using 08s to build 1910s, but IMO, there are so few 1910s registered, that the loss of the 08s, of which there are hundreds in the NFRTR, is outweighed significantly by the addition of the 1910s to the available pool of transferables. IMO it is a valuable net benefit.
At the moment I have the plates to build a few more registered 1910s, but I want to keep some plates for unusual Maxims that might show up as parts kits. As an example I've built one complete 1905 brass Maxim and have the parts for a second. There is a possibility of getting an early 1892 Enfield Maxim parts kit, so I need to save a plate for that if I can get it. I have most of a Finnish 32/33 parts kit and will build that as a transferable, and well as most of the parts for a 1904 US maxim which will be transferable as well.
I have built seven, IIRC, 1910s on customer's sideplates. And then there are post-samples of which I have built about 50 plus.
There are some aftermarket 08 sideplates in the woodwork still. I don't know if there are any Erb plates, or any plates made by the other few makers, but about a year ago I was offered 10 aftermarket 08 sideplates, not Erb's, for $20k apiece, and my counteroffer was refused. I believe the plates actually do exist, so they are a remainaing resource.
The plate on Sturm was an 08/15 Erb plate, not an 08 plate, at least the one I saw, for which I made an offer for a customer. I did not see a registered '08 plate offered anywhere, and if there was one, I am sure I'd have heard about it, and it would go for high money as the options for its use are many.
all I can think of for the moment.

Bob Naess
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I like the idea of taking some of those Erb side plates and making them 1910s. I know if I had one, I would really consider doing the same. It does suck to see an original plate MG08 plate altered to a 1910 but if they are in real bad shape, I guess you are right... for the little you loose, you gain a lot.

Now I did talk to one guy who was going to have you do the conversion on a sideplate of a 90% and Complete matching MG08... Now I thought that was to much. I do not think he ever did it... but I am not really sure.

I did see a transferable 1910 at the Nation gun show (Northern VA). They guy wanted $20K or $30K. I think that was a MG08 plate gun. Its gone now either way.

Bob, thats sounds awesome, I would love to see the some pictures of that all brass Maxim if you have some. For that matter any of those rare maxims you have would be great to see. I assume you saw the 1904 waterjacket on Sturm? What all do you need for the finnish 32/33? I will keep an eye out for you.

While we are talking Maxims, does anyone know where I can find a low mount ring for putting a MG08 on a Finnish mount using the standard finnish rear mount? I can not use the one from IMA for this. I need one like the Finns had that was lower and mounted farther up then the lugs. OR does anyone know where I can find the rear mounting piece for the finnish style ring that IMA sells? I picked up a really really nice Finnish mount at the last National gun show and would like to mount my MG08 on it.
 
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