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Yep and we all know you Can't fix Stupid. There was this guy my shooting buddie and I know that comes into the shop and he tells me he has an M1 carbine that is FA come to find out its just a SA M1 carbine but this dumas tells people it's FA. He is definetely not the brightest oh and of course he happens to be in jail right now too...

Who says we don't contact reps hell I contact reps and legis out of state when I see something is wrong. This is the United States you stand up for me as I stand up for you. Course I guess a lot of Americans are lazy if it doesn't effect you then forget about it right...:confused:

I guess since the NRA is not doing any good you guys should look forward to having your guns scrapped in a forthcoming UN arms ban right...:rolleyes:

I'll be damned if I'll ever give up my fathers service pistol:mad:
 
autodoc said:
Why is it that the non-Kalifornians are giving up on us? We're the Marines on the front line! What happens here will end up swallowing up the rest of the country, if you don't believe that you are a fool. I ***** about the NRA giving up on Kalifornia, and now you guys are abandoning us too.

I write our Representatives, I participate in Pro-gun activities, and I still support the NRA even though they are doing no good here. There are very few avenues for us to combat this menace, and support from this community is ABSOLUTELY necessary for us to prevail.

If you want to give up on us, that's your choice, but if we fall you're next.
I agree with you 100% and i hate to be in your shoes, we have given up on you guys, but do we see you marching down the street getting media attention? Do we see you rallying anywhere doing anything positive other then cryin on the boards? NO It seems you all gave up on it so why should we think any differently, why should we fight for you when you wont fight your selves? The illegals in Kali are fighting for what they want, they arent leaving it up to their kin in mexico to fight for them, they are doin it, why dont you guys get together and do the same in some way? Seems theres alot you guys could be doin but there seems to be nothing gettin done. Now you want us to fight for you? Instead f bitchin on here, go to the nra website and ***** to them, they might stop runnin their fingers threw your $$ long enough to read it, maybe send you some BS reply about how they wish they could help, but i doubt it. :(
 
history repeating itself

remember the phrase. divide and conquer. does it apply here? i think it does.
remember the phrase. states rights. i think we fought a war over that some
time ago. is this all happening over again? remember the phrase. those who
forget history are bound to repeat it. are we all one people in this nation and
not divided by states boundaries? makes one think of where we are heading.
DOESN'T IT!!!!
 
I have a question. Would it not be prudent for one of the commercial manufacturers to market the identical rifle, but in .49 caliber? Some provision would have to be made so a standard .50 case/bullet would not fit and blow the rifle.

A case designed slightly different where you trim a few thousandths and run it up a die and presto, out comes a .49 caliber. I am sure the bullet makers would be able to produce the bullets and then the Kalifornia owners can thumb their nose at the law.

Don't know how it would work economically, but it is a way to fight back and stick it up the lawmaker's butt. The rifles could also be marketed in places like NJ, where they are currently about to lose the .50. Many states will soon follow.
 
In my opinion its not the politicians or the elected officials ,Its ALL ABOUT THE MONEY , the lawyers and the insurance car-tail run this country. Just think of all the money those bastards will make defending little Joe blow down the street for having a dam bullet. And throwing money at the problem wont help nobody but big business . Pack up all your sh$$ and get the hell out let the Mexicans and gay's have it !! Rant Over If Only the south would have won !!
 
We do what we can

Hey I look at it this way we will on be on the same playing field soon. I'm not to worried about it so Im gonna go out this weekend with my new buddies from the board and were going to celebrate our 2nd amendment rights by slinging lead down range...If you think no one wants to fight your wrong these guys here have more fight in them than most. I'm sure you all are getting them all worked up...

They have 50 DTC here now that is a little different in the shoulder they only banned the caliber 50 BMG nothing else. Barrett already has a rifle that he is marketing to Cali that is more accurate than the 50bmg and is more efficient I think its the .461 barrett or .416 can't recall... So that was a cosmetic ban don't know about Jersey thought that may be less specific that what we had here...

Can you say Socialism!!!! So prepare to conform you Capitalist Pig Dog....:p
 
Everyone keeps sayin "If the south would of won". Theres no one here more rebel then me, i have my FLAGS flyin on the flag pole confederate and MO state confederate flag, have them in the house, in and on the vehichles. I have kin that died in the war and paroled from it as well. But if the south would of won we would of been in trouble long ago. Its best the south did loose in all sincerity. Cali would be france, or britian, or iraq or some other country just like the rest of the western states.

You guys know there are jobs in other states that you could get, kali isnt the only place that has jobs.
 
In response

""That is some I hate Kali and hope the
country falls off in the ocean and none of them bastards can swim.""

#1.. Learn how to spell the name...it's "California". (try using spell check)
#2.. California is not a "country" it is a state, take a night course in geography.
#3.. Unlike where you may live; I knew both of my parents and they were married to each other for 67 years.
#4.. I can swim.

""I feel for you guys that llive there, to a certain extent. You know how it
is, you know they rob you of your rights and yet you stay and then
complain. Dont complain, get out and live free!""

#5.. I don't remember complaining to you about where I choose to live.
#6.. Where do you think I should move to save my rights? New York? Washington D.C.?!!


*************
""The way I see it Kommifornia Gunowners Have 1 of 3 Choices.""
#7.. See #1 above.
""I wonder if the Jackboot"" ... (unnesasary bullshit removed)

. ""The way I see it Kommifornia gunowners have one of 3 choices left:
(lets all repeat ourselves!)
1. Leave Kommifornia and come back to the US to a state that still
recognizes the Constitution.""

# 8.. I would rather be here than where ever you are. also see #6 above

""2. Organize a resistance movement and start fighting for keeps.""

#9.. We have a resistance group. However we only invited people we could count on in a battle. Did you receive an invitation?

""3. Stay in Kommifornia as it continues its downward spiral; and be
arrested or killed by some trigger happy Swat Nazis of the State.""

#10.. See #6 above.

""As far as I see, Kommifornia gunowners are beyond the point of
being able to work with the system there. Kommiefornia gunowners are
facing the same thing that the Jews faced in Hitlers Germany and as it
was then, the choices are the same. Wonder if the outcome will be the
same or will there be another Warsaw Ghetto uprising?""

#11.. As far as you see? Do you live here? Look in your own backyard first.



**************

""Option #2 sounds best, but in reality there should of been a 4th,
stay in Kali, deal with bein F%$#ed every day and dont whine to the rest
about it, you made the choice.""

#12.. I'm not sure I would trust your idea of "reality"!
#13.. Once again... I repeat... I do not recall complaining to you about anything.

And Finally
#14.. My wife and I have been married going on 40 years, we were both born in California. I served my country in Viet Nam through 4 tours.
2 Purple Hearts, combat ribbon, Silver Star..etc.
I own several weapons, some illegal some not; NONE of them registered.
When the time comes to fight, we will be ready... Will you?
Or will you just continue to whine and ***** about other people's business?

Michael Ironfeather
Osage421@inreach.com

If you reply to me by email, use spell check or your email will not be read.
 
U.S.A. POPULATION 300 MILLION...NRA MEMBERS 5 MILLION...That should tell you something...295 MILLION DON'T CARE...YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM OR PART OF THE SOLUTION...JOIN THE NRA TODAY....
 
America's at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.

.- Claire Wolfe

Unfortunately, at this moment in time, anyone who would dare to attempt an armed resistance to these actions would surely accomplish two things,,,
#1 Get themselves labeled as a Domestic Terrorist.
#2 Give the Government more than Adequate reason to enlarge the bans to include a wider varity of firearms,,, a Catch 22 if you will.

Either way you're F*#ked,,, unless your ready to join the underground and go to war,,, Hell its time for WWIII anyway,,, WTF!!!

Some of you might remember my Constitutional Rants from the old site,,, I won't get into that now,,, I just don't accept that the Founders meant, when they put the States Rights Clause, that a State had the right to deny any or all of the Individual Rights guaranteed under the Constitution,,, "the Supreme Law of the Land", to some of its citizens, because they live in "certain" states.
If this was the case, why would they have worried about that annoying little "equal protection" thingy.

Unless you are ready to go on the offensive,,, form groups to defend each other,,,, uh,, then you become a terror cell,,,

Where are all those chest beaters who said the Patriot Act was such a swell thing?

"It astonishes me to find... [that so many] of our countrymen... should be contented to live under a system which leaves to their governors the power of taking from them the trial by jury in civil cases, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of commerce, the habeas corpus laws, and of yoking them with a standing army. This is a degeneracy in the principles of liberty... which I [would not have expected for at least] four centuries." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1788. (*) FE 5:3
 
DOUBLE8 said:
I hate Kali and hope the fuckin country falls off in the ocean and none of them bastards can swim. I feel for you guys that llive there, to a certain extent. You know how it is, you know they rob you of your rights and yet you stay and then complain. Dont complain, get out and live free!
Thanks, may I be the first to wish that tragedy also befalls your entire family.... :confused:

Another good piece of advice, cut and run! :mad:

That's OK, I'll stay and put up the good fight so they don't move to your state next. What happens in California often is used as a trial balloon for what will subsequently be enacted in other states.
 
Its KALI with a K, and you do live in a different country, open your eyes. WHAT RESISTANCE GROUP??? Are you guys hiding so you dont get your doors kicked in? Pretty tough aint ya!

Ricki says
U.S.A. POPULATION 300 MILLION...NRA MEMBERS 5 MILLION...That should tell you something...295 MILLION DON'T CARE...YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM OR PART OF THE SOLUTION...JOIN THE NRA TODAY....

I say
I am a member, but thats only untill my membership runs out then im done with the gutless money hungry scam artists. Join the nra today, your in for a hell of a let down, this problem didnt just arise yesterday with your country, its been goin on for years, what have the nra done for you??? They laugh at you cause you still beleive they care as they count your money. Is there a week go by that they dont call you askin for more $$$? Is there a day you see them make change for your country? Do the math, they are worthless. What a joke!
 
people in california cannot help the fact that there govt is BEYOND out of control
its real easy to say move away when you dont live there im sure.


you guys need to hold a SERIOUS protest - much like the illegals are doing


get a SERIOUS protest going, and ill even drive out from nevada to help you guys out


writing letters to people isnt going to help you out, and bitching about it on an internet forum sure as hell isnt going to help you out

someone organize a SERIOUS protest, and youll accomplish a WHOLE HELL of alot more than bitching about the way things are on the internet

hell, im sure plenty gun owners from other states would join the cause, but someone needs to organize it, and it has to START with California people willing to make that kind of thing happen


last time i checked, it was still legal to hold peaceful demonstrations - how come i dont see gun owners in droves demonstrating?


you got at leat 1 volunteer to help from a whole other state

the internet is a valuable tool to organize this sort of thing, but bitching and moaning about it wont help you guys out at ALL


when was the last time ANYONE here from ANY state saw gun owners assemble to protest?? anyone?? anywhere??
 
Mr. SolothurnAT, three points if you would permit me sir;
1. I do not believe I said I disagreed with the general points being made, I simply said it SOUNDS LIKE a large percentage are whacko. 2. It is possible that I know a bit more than you do about the L.A. incident you described. 3. Once again sir, like the old saying goes, "If the shoe fits, .... ..".
 
Nra---friend Or Foe?

After twenty years in the service I retired and later became an NRA firearms instructor. About two years after that the NRA sent a mandate to all instructors.

1: Fulfill a quota of trainees and report the count to NRA.

2: Charge the trainee an amount dictated by NRA.

I was retired and wanted to train young people (or old people) I don't give a damn. Some people couldn't afford the fees! The NRA forbade me to teach for free. What does that tell you? Does the NRA want gun safety or money? You be the judge.

I QUIT!.....But I still take teens and ladies to a range and teach them for free. Not being licenced means I just pass on free gun information and hands on instruction to who ever wants it. It's legal if I don't charge anyone. Unfortunately, the poor student gets tips and training but NO CERTIFICATE SO THEY CAN GET A CARRY PERMIT.

PS, NRA has a reputation for making deals in the capitol concerning our rights. THE SECOND AMMENDMENT IS NOT NEGOTIABLE!

Check out the JPFO. They want to ABOLISH the BATFE WHO HAVE NO CONSTITIONAL RIGHT TO EXIST!

Good luck my brothers in arms and: "Keep your powder dry" (I don't know who made that quote but it sounds kinda neat to me.)
 
The world is getting worse. This includes the US with California. If things continue the way it is going (and I think it will) at some point personal ownership of firearms will be a thing of the past

It is caused by many factors and can proably not be reversed (at least for now). I believe the main cause to be over population. We have developed what I would consider to be an "insect" mentality. Survival of the individual is no longer as important as survival of the group. The only thing that may possably curb this at some point is the decimation of our species.

At this point all that can be accomplished is the continuation of a delaying action. We cannot stop the onslaught but we can slow it down for on coming generations and they must continue the fight.

Each generation looses a bit more freedom but the loss is not as noticable to them as it is to the ones that came before.
 
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