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Im a firm believer of the Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts. I honestly think they are the last organization in this country thats still teaching boys to be self sufficient men. However, in the last 5 years Ive noticed a huge increase of Boyscout popcorn being sold in malls and in front of Walmart. These kids make a scene a draw me in, and then dad takes over the sale. The Scouts do NONE of the talking, they just run in front of me and yell "YOU WANT TO SUPPORT THE BOYSCOUTS?? Well, Im a good sport and I walk over...only to find popcorn selling for 25 bucks for the Jalapeno 4 pack, 20 bucks for microwave bags and 10 bucks for a SINGLE, 11 oz bag of caramel corn. The kid runs off and dad takes my money. He then hands the bag to some other random scout and says 'hand this to the gentleman'.....

WTF is scouting coming too???
 

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Give the scouts cash. It is council that takes all of the money and sets the prices. the troop gets 30% and council gets 40%. That is the money part. Now the helicopter parents, well thats another story...
 

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News to me and I've been involved with scouting off and on for 30 years. The only troop fundraising activities are cutting firewood or fence posts and putting up American flags on the appropriate holidays for a modest fee. We used to pre-sell and cut Christmas trees, but finding private land to cut from is becoming a problem. Chartering of the unit and individual registration fees are paid from church funds, and members of our church are encouraged to make a special donation directly to the scouting district once a year to underwrite scout activities within the district.

I can see where firewood or fence posts would be a problem for an urban troop, but the flag service should work anywhere and there have to be better ideas than selling some of the junk I see advertised in Boy's Life and the Scouting magazine for adult leaders. I'd much rather give the ten bucks directly to the troop and skip making two or three commercial middlemen rich.
 

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They do the popcorn thing around here too, albeit with a bit less helicopter parenting. One of the district guys told me long ago it was an attempt to try and work the Girl Scout Cookie angle without directly competing, but popcorn? Not a memorable thing in my book. They should do bacon ;)
 

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They do the popcorn thing around here too, albeit with a bit less helicopter parenting. One of the district guys told me long ago it was an attempt to try and work the Girl Scout Cookie angle without directly competing, but popcorn? Not a memorable thing in my book. They should do bacon ;)
Yeah, and at 10 bucks a bag, its not even very good. Seriously, 10 bucks for a bag thats half the size of a regular bag of potato chips. i figures theres 25 cents of popcorn and 50 cents of caramel....but Id pay it if the scouts were actively engaged. All the scouts I see in the mall are playing grab ass and let dad do all the work.

When I was a kid I went door to door doing candy fundraising, and I was proud of it. I never made any records or won any pizza parties, but I did it all myself, my Dad just looked at my sales sheet at the end of the day to make sure I wrote it all down.

Im really considering volunteering to do some leadership for the Scouts, but 1) I dont have any kids and 2) I dont want to get caught up in the political bullshit.
 

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Its the same here. Go to any home improvement store and you are met with a gap-tooth grin. Buy my "insert crappy product" so I can "Go To" whatever lame field trip. I give my families kids cash for the PTA stuff. The BSA thing is kinda weird. Even when I was a cub scout our money grabs involved raking leaves or some such labor type situation. It kinda pisses me off really. J
 

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Go for it, Scott! If there is more than two people involved you will always have "political bullshit". What makes being a scout leader worthwhile, whether you are a committee member or a scoutmaster is the looks on the boys' faces when a project or activity goes right. The very best is when they come back to you as adults and say "thanks". It's not easy, but so far nothing worthwhile has been.
 

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money grubbing

Try having four girls in girl scouts, two on the school dance team, two in high school volleyball one in junior high VB, each and every organization has to try to make money somehow,so of course as dad I have to pay each of them for what ever, not to mention having all my friends hit up, I don't remember it being this bad when I graduated in 82, but then maybe it's different on the receiving end, with the girl scout cooky thing we are severely regulated on where and when we can sell, but it doesn't seem to slow the girls down they always sell a couple thousand boxes in our little community! The boy scout popcorn thing must be an east coast thing,I've never seen it out here.
 

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When I was a kid we sold Scout Expo tickets, which was basically just asking for a cash contribution. 47, I know what you mean about all the youth activity fundraisers: Popcorn, cookies, Cheer T-shirts, barbeque tickets, band cards, raffle tickets - it never ends.

With food items, I've just gotten in the habit of giving the kids a check. I certainly don't need to bring home a full size, New York cheese cake. MSG
 

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Got hit up this morning at 9:00. I hope he liked my no shirt and barking dog thing I had going on. I had half a mind to ask him to take out my recycling and trash but his pops was on the sidewalk. J
 

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Funny you should bring this up. Just a few days ago a cub scout came to my door and was taking orders for pop corn and Christmas wreaths. This kid could not have been older than about eight years and he was very articulate in his sales approach. I could hardly say no. I bought a couple of wreaths but no popcorn. After he made the sale his mother came up the driveway with a big friendly smile but she let the kid do all the talking. I think he will go far one day. We always put a couple of Christmas wreaths on the house so I may as well buy them from the scouts even if they are a little more expensive.
 

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Scott I second the go for it. I was a leader years ago with no kids of my own. Helped a freind found a successful troop. Had to step aside as I built my own family and changed careers. Now tge kids are old enough I am back in the saddle. I hated the popcorn sales as a kid, didnt have my son participate last year but wife and son both and him to do it this year. I have had many people just donate $5, $10, $20 instead of buying anything because they know how the system works and would rather donate direct.
 

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I never buy the popcorn but I do give a few bucks to them and they always say thank you! KevinT
 

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When I was a boy scout, man...that was a while back....anyhow, we had to sell that nasty popcorn too. I always felt bad, even as a kid. Its trash.
 

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Pricey Popcorn

I am glad I am not the only one who feels they ask to much for popcorn. Do not get me wrong I do not mind a Charity but its too much. As for my step daughter everyone in the neighborhood goes nuts for the cookies and buys 100$ plus worth, its crazy the Girl Scouts have dominated the market I tell you.
 

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My boy is a cub scout. His troop sells chocolate bars. That "World's Best Chocolate" stuff. Almonds, krackle, milk chocolate, and caramel (my Fav)
They have no problem selling those! Neither do I. $1 bars. A case of those in a high school classroom goes fast!
 
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