[mt-ac]

I have a 1919 feed pawl that has the small extension in the middle rather than on the edge, where did this one start out? No part number on it, or Izzy stamps, and the finish is bright polished steel.
Thank you.

 

[jmann]

it is from a commercial colt 1928. It was the original design and feeds belts only. Most, but not all of the colt ones also exhibit an r in an oval and the finish is actually nickel, as were most of the internals on these fine weapons.

 

[TiredIron]

The Pawl you speak of was the original pawl for the 1917-17A1 Browning Watercooled weapon. It was designed for cloth belts only as thats all there was at the time. Next the leg was moved to the side for feeding links and belts. Then the leg was given an offset for 7.62 Nato use. The pawl for the M37 was different still by eliminating the teeth on the feed edge since it never was intended for cloth belts.
TiredIron

 

[TiredIron]

Jmann is right...I stand corrected.
Tirediron

 

[mt-ac]

So it won't workin my 1919 then?

So it should not work in my 1919 then? I just tried it and it goes over the belt and it jams on links. It was in the top cover on my last 1919 kit. The barrel extension is also bare metal, and the slot on the trunion is a few thousands wider than my new excellent quality RSP. No part numbers on trunion or barrel extension.
Thanks for the help.

 

[jmann]

it will work for belts but not links. What is the headspace lock spring like on the barrel extension you describe. Where did you get the 1919 kit. It is not an argentine 1919 kit is it?

 

[mt-ac]

Argentine kit?

Is it an Argentine kit, it had a 30-06 barrel in it, 2 piece booster not 30-06 or .710 diameter hole? The other strange thing with the left side plate is the where the cartridge feed guides fit to convert to 308 or 8MM the front section would require a front cartridge guide with a different dimension where the fed pawl pin goes than Izzy kits. Lock spring looks like USGI not Izzy style.

 

[Lucky#13]

For what it's worth, I don't believe the original 1917s ever used the 1928 style feed pawl, with the leg in the center. My earliest drawing has the 1931 dated revision 2, with rev 1 in 1919 and an original date of June 1918, but it does not appear that the pawl design changed that radically from the original. Can't prove it by that, unfortunately. There are four separate components on this drawing, which was the standard on the original stuff. The feed lever, slide and breech lock cam are on the same drawing.

For conclusive evidence, I have examples of both Westinghouse and Remington made feed pawls. All are the standard style we know and love, with the leg on the side. Both these firms were out of the production business on Brownings very shortly after the war ended. I am certain this is the only style they made.

Oh, on your Argentine kit, beware that one of the trunnion holes may be offset by a small but significant amount when compared to USGI. Be mindful of that when fitting things up for assembly.

 

[T&S Manufacturing]

the slot on the trunion is a few thousands wider than my new excellent quality RSP.

As remarkable as it may sound, all those trunion slots are usually very accurately machined. Have you considered that that the corresponding 'tab' on your excellent quality RSP is too narrow? Easy to make 'em that way if the X zero isn't properly set (CNC or manual mill), the CNC program is wrong, the cutting tool is worn, the fixture is shabby, the plate isn't fully secure in it's machining fixture, etc, etc, et al.

Compare your RSP and LSP trunion tabs and slots by laying the RSP and LSP on a flat surface, with their bottom edges mated together, and the trunion tabs and slots aligned. Compare them by eyeball. If you're used to working in thousandths you should be able to see if the tabs and slots are the same size or different.