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Down-loaded the ITAR crap and read it ...twice. Most..if not all...refers to FFL's...class #1 thru #9. Any mfg. will have to pay the fees and such. Private citizens...do not. Private citizens may load ammo up to .50 BMG...no restrictions...yet. And...unless you do anything for a 'living' that requires an FFL...you are not affected.

Now here is the most important part of this. All ITAR regs are NOT USA LAW. The senate has not even given a hearing...much less any vote on the floor of the senate to anything related to ITAR. In fact,over 55 senators have signed a letter to Obama saying they will not EVER vote for any such UN restrictions. ITAR is unconstitutional on it's face..in total opposition to the 2nd amendment. ATF cannot abrogate ANY law or amendment. Therefore...IMHO...none of this,in any way,affects anyone in the USA...period.

There are several lawyers who specialize in firearms law who have said exactly the same thing. There are folks who are preparing legal remedies before any part of this crap is allowed to take effect. This may be the straw that 'breaks-the-back' and starts open rebellion.
 

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Yup - hog wash to the tenth degree - and yet it is allowed to happen and gets media coverage just because........I know for a fact quite a few FFL's are leery about doing any kind of machine work right now - just because of this newest move by Obama.
 

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...not normal...

I'm suprised that the NRA has not put anything in print on this topic. And the NRA is an NGO and has a seat at the UN....everyday...!!
 

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I know the NSSF is working on this, and the NRA should be.
 

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There is an excellent law firm's blog that I follow the Prince Law Offices (a division of the Firearms Industry Consulting Group) that has published several good articles on ITAR and DDTC and how absurd it all is. I highly recommend you read these two blog posts.


DDTC Issues Guidance on ITAR Registration
https://blog.princelaw.com/2016/07/25/ddtc-issues-guidance-on-itar-registration/

If You Thought ITAR Was Bad…Firearm and Ammunition Manufacturing, Importing (and Gunsmithing) Taxes
https://blog.princelaw.com/2016/08/...anufacturing-importing-and-gunsmithing-taxes/


These are the good guys and have submitted hundreds and hundreds of pages of opinions in opposition of ATF 41P (now 41F), the new ATF29P, the new flawed ATF 4473, etc.
 

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There is an excellent law firm's blog that I follow the Prince Law Offices (a division of the Firearms Industry Consulting Group) that has published several good articles on ITAR and DDTC and how absurd it all is. I highly recommend you read these two blog posts.

DDTC Issues Guidance on ITAR Registration
https://blog.princelaw.com/2016/07/25/ddtc-issues-guidance-on-itar-registration/

If You Thought ITAR Was Bad…Firearm and Ammunition Manufacturing, Importing (and Gunsmithing) Taxes
https://blog.princelaw.com/2016/08/...anufacturing-importing-and-gunsmithing-taxes/

These are the good guys and have submitted hundreds and hundreds of pages of opinions in opposition of ATF 41P (now 41F), the new ATF29P, the new flawed ATF 4473, etc.
Quoting myself because the links above are important, it appears that Adam Kraut put together a video discussing ITAR and DDTC. It is on The Gun Collective's Facebook page (to note that I ABSOLUTELY HATE FACEBOOK and do not have a FB account) that should be accessible to anyone. The video is right at the top right now (there is a 30 second commercial after Adam's intro so don't quit the video because it seems like it was hijacked by an advertisement) and is very much worth the watch.

https://www.facebook.com/TheGunCollective/
 
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