Looking for a photo of a Russian M1910 condensing hose connector. Thanks
I believe this is more than just steam condenser hose. Note that all waterjackets are connected together at the steam tube site. Since they were facing up, I think that tended to expose the front of the barrel. Either way, thats looking for a needle in a haystack.There are photos of M1910s with hoses attached when used in the quad anti aircraft mount.
It never hurts to look does it?I believe this is more than just steam condenser hose. Note that all waterjackets are connected together at the steam tube site. Since they were facing up, I think that tended to expose the front of the barrel. Either way, thats looking for a needle in a haystack.
Bob, I have never seen a combat photo of Red Army troops using a water can or hose. The closest I have found has been the quad AA setup. My original post about this came up because a fellow I know in Ukraine asked me about connectors a few days ago. Like you the only ones I have seen are Finnish, same with the condensing cans.It appears that the only hose connectors that exist in any quantity are the finn made connectors which screw onto the threaded stud and have the small opposed handles to tighten it.
The 1905s had one type I know of which is a round ferrule with two bands of single row knurling on either end, and it appears that these were assembled the same way as the Finn ones with a flanged tube inserted into the ferrule and then the hose wired to that tube.
In all the various pictures I have seen of Russian soldiers using the 1910s, none show a water can or hose. I have asked several Russian collectors about water cans, hoses and other parts to a steam capture system, but no one has come up with pics or equipment that is Russian made. Seems to me that there should be some evidence of mounting hardware, hoses and cans but it has not crossed my research.
Maybe... sometimes you find the side of the needle. Sometimes you get the point... I agree with Bob. Waste of time.It never hurts to look does it?
Looks like the Finnish made one to me.This one doesn't say what nationality other than it is for a Maxim 1910. It's similar to the Finnish one, but the arms appear to be shorter.
It's not cheap - that's around $125 US.
besides that, my stuff isn't rare or valuable until I sell it to someone else!>I will keep that in mind the next time someone calls me looking for a rare item some might call a needle in a hay stack and I happen to have one in a storage box.<
If it is that rare and valuable you won't let go of it anyway, right? And most of the time, if you have one , that means there are more out there. But, there are lots of parts and guns that have proven over time to just not be available, either because they were never available, and are extremely scarce and have been "collected" and are not on the market. These days, anything "rare" is on the list of dozens of guys, many with lots of money, another factor that makes it difficult to get rare stuff.
I have told countless people questing for these items that after forty plus years of looking for some of them, they just are not out there. I get pooh poohed and laughed at, but eventually they come to realize that I might be right. I let other people do the looking and don't waste my time. If they find what I am after, word gets out. Maybe I get one, maybe not.
What I love are parts and accessories that show up that nobody knows about. Example in my recent experience is a Mauser made, 7.92 Lewsi drum, identical to the early pattern Brit drums. Not Czech, for instance. Popped up out of the blue and no one who is into Lewis guns or vintage guns had ever heard of or seen one.
The Finn connectors are correct, historical, useable and available. Not like Mandoza LMGs, brass Enfield Maxim feedblocks, Jap T97 front scope mounts, .........long list could follow, but it doesn't matter.......
I do have a couple of the MG51 loaders I bought years ago - Was looking at them, the other day. Wonder if they could be modified ? One steel, one brass, they are just pretty. New in the boxes. Will have to see what they could be used for. They are for a 8mm size cartridge . Would need a modified feed bin. not sure about the belt. I think they were intended for the German MG-34 /42 Gurt 33 ?>So, who has a Russian 54R cloth Maxim belt loader ? What did the Finns use to load those cloth belts with ? I got a pile of belts out of Bulgaria, now I need to load them.......<
A few have come out of the Ukraine, but they are rehabilitated relic loaders and even with the new made parts, are rough and need some further rehab, which can be done, of course. they are patterned on the early Brit Maxim belt loaders and later Vickers type. Pricey, too.
Pusher plate loaders are currently the best option for loading the 54R belts if you really want to get the loading done efficiently.