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UPDATED: These are actually the M2 Tripod Mount for the 1919a4. Will find the scale between the M2 Tripod and the M3 (M2HB) Tripod and revise these schematics.

Here is what I have on the tripod for an M2HB:

Also I didn't realize there was a maximum of 4 attachments per post. So I will have to make more posts to cover it!
 

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I also have the schematics for the M31C Jeep Pedestal or upright tripod/stand plans that I will post in a separate thread when I get time to sort
it out of my other schematics.:D

Some pictures of what I am talking about:
 

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Putting that last bit in about the M31c Jeep Pedestal BMG mount I realized I forgot to put some pictures
in about the M2HB Tripod. So here goes and one test of increasing the size of the M2HB tripod schematic:
UPDATE: Okay, increasing the size for the schematic seemed to have no effect or at least I can't
tell the difference. However, all the pictures/diagrams I posted were doubled in size and
came out much better. Still learning.
 

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Great pics but I do believe that your tripod schematics are for the 1919’s ( tripods).Known as m2 tripods. The tripods for the m2hb are known as m3 tripods.
But these will be great for those that bought demilled m2 tripods for there 1919’s to get the proper leg length’s and other dimensions.
Good job keep the pics coming!👍
 

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Great pics but I do believe that your tripod schematics are for the 1919’s ( tripods).Known as m2 tripods. The tripods for the m2hb are known as m3 tripods.
But these will be great for those that bought demilled m2 tripods for there 1919’s to get the proper leg length’s and other dimensions.
Good job keep the pics coming!👍
Crap. Somehow I unintentionally duplicated this post.:mad:
 

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Great pics but I do believe that your tripod schematics are for the 1919’s ( tripods).Known as m2 tripods. The tripods for the m2hb are known as m3 tripods.
But these will be great for those that bought demilled m2 tripods for there 1919’s to get the proper leg length’s and other dimensions.
Good job keep the pics coming!👍
Okay that explains some things. I actually thought they could be used for either the M2HB or the 1919a4. I know that the plans for the M31c Jeep Pedestal
say for either 50 cal or 30 cal. Based on their size they can probably be modified for the M2 by scaling everything up on the schematics. I will have to research doing that.
I checked my files and they are mislabeled as M2HB. I should have checked the dimensions. Okay so now I need to fix this. Don't think I can
fix the thread title however.

Update: Working on it still. Considering all the pricey offerings out there it is no wonder that the actual schematics are not forthcoming. But I don't have math skills
for nothing. It is only a matter of time before I get proper scaling. I've got a comparison photo which is going to help. If I had to guess, I would estimate that the scale factor
is about 1.5 times the 1919a4 dimensions. (Updated: Closer to X1.3 I should think)
 

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UPdate: I ordered a M3 pintle which will also fit the M2 1919a4 supposedly. I plan to use these dimensions to dimension the M3 Tripod. I
have not found any schematics for the M3 tripod mount (mount for the M2HB, M2 BMG, and M3) online. Given the price I have seen
these tripods listed for it is no wonder you don't find the schematics on line. This will take a week or two given how busy SARCO
always appears to be.


UPDATE to UPDATE! I found some actual M3 Blue prints in my 50 BMG info collection that I didn't realize I had. I will post all of the pdf forms of the
M3 BPs' that are worth posting. I'm going to let the M3 pintle come anyway. Won't hurt to have it!:D
 

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So I was looking through my rather huge collection of 50 BMG M2HB and M3 materials which can
only be described as a huge mess and actually found some M3 Tripod Mount related Blue prints.
I will post as many as I can and here are the M3 Traversing Bar blue prints to start. Enjoy
!:D

PS: I didn't realize I even had these guys--that's how much of a mess it is. To be fair, I got it that
way from others.
 

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For some reason these have been flying around the forums lately, tagged as M2HB pod drawings but they're from http://browningmgs.com/M2BuildSite.htm and http://browningmgs.com/M2BuildSite/Drawings.htm

There are slight differences from the actual GI prints on Orin's CD, but nothing that's going to ruin anyone's day making a functional pod.
It's an easy mistake to make. The US Military wasn't very imaginative in it's use of code names and numbers for the MG models. Calling the 1919a4 Tripod
mount a "M2" and the 50 BMG M2HB Tripod mount a "M3" is more than a little confusing. I certainly, wrongly, assumed that an M2 Tripod mount was for
the M2 50 cal when it is not.:confused:
 

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As mentioned by shred, Orin- known here as member "7.62x51" - used to sell a CD with the complete 1919A4 drawings and the M2 tripod as well. I think he recently started offering it for free, since some people were sharing them around after purchasing, rather than referring them to Orin so he could sell his product. I know some tried and could not reach him. In any case, contact him for genuine Ordnance Dept drawings on those items. '

So far as I know, the M3 tripod drawings are not readily available. At least, no one I know has had them.

Meanwhile, nice work on the drawings, jmdove. Well done.
 

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It's an easy mistake to make. The US Military wasn't very imaginative in it's use of code names and numbers for the MG models. Calling the 1919a4 Tripod
mount a "M2" and the 50 BMG M2HB Tripod mount a "M3" is more than a little confusing. I certainly, wrongly, assumed that an M2 Tripod mount was for
the M2 50 cal when it is not.:confused:
Yeah, it would be harder to be more confusing unless they named the M3 tripod the "1919 Tripod" :)
 

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As mentioned by shred, Orin- known here as member "7.62x51" - used to sell a CD with the complete 1919A4 drawings and the M2 tripod as well. I think he recently started offering it for free, since some people were sharing them around after purchasing, rather than referring them to Orin so he could sell his product. I know some tried and could not reach him. In any case, contact him for genuine Ordnance Dept drawings on those items. '

So far as I know, the M3 tripod drawings are not readily available. At least, no one I know has had them.

M. eanwhile, nice work on the drawings, jmdove. Well done.
Thanks! I definitely didn't get it from Orin/7.62x51. I bought it off some guy at a gun show years ago and haven't seen him since. It seemed a
shame to keep them all to myself when we could be building a community that keeps the M2HB/M3 alive by producing their own parts. That's the
ultimate goal. I doubt it is going to eat into anyone's profits because some people will always be better than the rest of us at welding these parts together
and machining. The M2HB has so many components that a single person would be very hard pressed to produce all the necessary parts. And then there
is all that steel hardening that needs to be done. Definitely takes knowledge, skill and practice.
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Thanks! I definitely didn't get it from Orin/7.62x51. I bought it off some guy at a gun show years ago and haven't seen him since. It seemed a
shame to keep them all to myself when we could be building a community that keeps the M2HB/M3 alive by producing their own parts. That's the
ultimate goal. I doubt it is going to eat into anyone's profits because some people will always be better than the rest of us at welding these parts together
and machining. The M2HB has so many components that a single person would be very hard pressed to produce all the necessary parts. And then there
is all that steel hardening that needs to be done. Definitely takes knowledge, skill and practice.
:D
Fair point, and there has been a market for repro tripods from Iron Creations, and others in the past like Allied Armament, and BadgerBob, another long-time member here. Then there are those who want to roll their own, and now the demilled sets coming over from master22nl are great for those who like a project and have the skills. I admit to hoarding certain drawings, but that's because they are part of my business and it is not in my interests to make them public. This pertains primarily to the WWI and pre-WWII Browning models I reproduce. Tripods? Have at it!
 
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