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<<Any person who knowingly buys, sells, receives, disposes of, conceals, or has in his possession a sniperscope shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment. As used in this section, sniperscope means any attachment, device or similar contrivance designed for or adaptable to use on a firearm which, through the use of a projected infrared light source and electronic telescope, enables the operator thereof to visually determine and locate the presence of objects during the nighttime. This section shall not prohibit the authorized use or possession of such sniperscope by a member of the armed forces of the United States or by police officers, peace officers, or law enforcement officers authorized by the properly constituted authorities for the enforcement of law or ordinances; nor shall this section prohibit the use or possession of such sniperscope when used solely for scientific research or educational purposes.>>

Thats an old law, and I would wonder if they even would
enforce it now, unless they really wanted to get you.
But way back when you could not own any infrared scope
in cali. This was long before starlite became available.
Even though some companies back then were in cali
like edmund scientific, and sold IR scopes to the public,
they were restricted here and in a few other socialist
states. The starlight scopes are sold everywhere in
cali with no restrictions and to the best of my knowledge
has never been restriced to any use or mounting.
I have seen them available in various stores throughout the
state and at flea markets and what not. If the chain stores
sell it in the state I'm pretty sure they have checked the
law to determine they are legal beforehand. But I am willing
to stand corrected since the scope that is going on my 1919
is a AN/TVS-2 which is one humongous night vision scope
previously used on a M2, and 90mm.
 

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Ok. i got it in hand and will try to describe it as best i can. it is grey and probably 18+ inches long. has the the russian hammer cicle and star. has the russian writing which my computer doesnt do it looks like "BblKn" "RPkOCTb" "CETKN" "1nH58" the R's and N's are written backwards. it is built on a ak type mount. The front lens cap says "3AKP" "OTKP" it has several dials which read nEB CTn nPAB. BHN3 CTn BBEPX. AK74. its in an green yellow burlap bag with leather tabs and a stap. it has 2 pockets for extra batteries. the battery looks like a d shaped battery but it unscrews to reveal 6 or more lithium round digital camera looking batteries. the d shaped case is maked with a plus at the top of it. the batteries are marked with somekind of upside down bulls head followed by -0,55c and in the middle is what looks like 2 people on thier knees holding up a crwon or a lamp. then there is a plus sign under them followed by 1193. any info is much appreciated. the man told me i could have it if i could get it to work. I dont know what it is, what its for, what type of batteries it takes or how much its worth. thanks
can anyone decipher the crilic or what ever it is on the batteries?
 

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Russian night Vision stuff ??

These items for the most parts should be relegated to a shelf for your collection. The big scopes I hear generate a lot of harmful radiation into your eye. It would be like putting your face directly on a 1950's TV tube but 500 times worse .That is what I was told by a major NV manufacturer years ago. but an entry level PVS -7 monocular from a Real NV person you can talk with; such as http://www.sightowl.com/ ; he will talk with you has the knowledge and I could recommend him anytime for any repair or advice. I wish I knew someone else to recommend but the other guys are all to busy; too unreliable or overly expensive for the same items
 

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I am NOT a lawyer, but I pulled this off of CA DOJ website, CA Penal Code 468.

Any person who knowingly buys, sells, receives, disposes of, conceals, or has in his possession a sniperscope shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year, or by both such fine and imprisonment. As used in this section, sniperscope means any attachment, device or similar contrivance designed for or adaptable to use on a firearm which, through the use of a projected infrared light source and electronic telescope, enables the operator thereof to visually determine and locate the presence of objects during the nighttime. This section shall not prohibit the authorized use or possession of such sniperscope by a member of the armed forces of the United States or by police officers, peace officers, or law enforcement officers authorized by the properly constituted authorities for the enforcement of law or ordinances; nor shall this section prohibit the use or possession of such sniperscope when used solely for scientific research or educational purposes.


I personally dont want to go to court to explain the different between a Starlight scope and an Infa Red Scope. My pocket book isnt deep enough to fight the battle.
....Thanks, S.Carney. That's the law I was referring too when I wrote about a projecting IR light source being part of the violation. It should be noted too, that this section refers to a " Sniperscope ", and that would require an aiming point or reticle of some kind to qualify. My PVS-13 has an IR light, but it's a map reading light only and projects not enough to see anything beyond a few feet. My night vision device cost about 3200.00 bucks. It relies on ambient IR light, a true starlight/moonlight device, has no reticle and only really provides a view of, at most, 50 yards ahead. The display is green in color and , since it's a monocular, lacks the depth information you need to run or walk quickly. I've tried it and you go on your ass. Small stones and ruts are barely visible. You are required to look down at the 5-10 feet just ahead of you to watch where you are going and therefore, aren't looking ahead. If you look ahead and walk, you trip, at least over uneven ground. No periferral vision, so you are forced to move slowly and scan side to side and up and down. Makes you dizzy. As those who have used scopes for any time know, the differential between one eye that can see and one eye that can't causes headaches and eye strain. I bought a helmet and the military attachment base for my nightscope. Wearing it for an hour is uncomfortable and requires that the helmet be tight as gravity is always pulling the scope down and out of the line of sight. I purchased two IR flashlights off Ebay. They truly do light up the night, but the one is just too much light and the reflected light dazzles and almost blinds. It surely prevents me from seeing the objects in the shaded/dark areas that reflect little light. The weaker of the two IR flashlights is just about right, and improves the view immensly. Of course, anyone with a Night Vision Device, even a Russian Gen 1 device, can see an IR flashlight coming from far, far away. One thing the IR flashlights do that is distracting is that they light up flying bugs as if they were shooting stars. There are one hell of a lot of bugs out at night.
...I mounted the IR flashlights on my truck and have driven home at night ( deep country/dirt road) with the lights off. WOW ! A quiet vehicle could be almost undetectable. Some reflection from inside the windshield, and the rear view and side mirrors are useless, but what a ride. DD:eek:
 

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I used bable fish to get "light grid, off" took damn near forever. i tried to find some pics on the net but i cant find anything. i would love to know some info about it like when it was used and for what. i dont know if its a scope or just a monocular. its doesnt have a ir light on it. hells its 2 foot long lol.
 

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oldtirediron said:
These items for the most parts should be relegated to a shelf for your collection. The big scopes I hear generate a lot of harmful radiation into your eye. It would be like putting your face directly on a 1950's TV tube but 500 times worse .That is what I was told by a major NV manufacturer years ago. but an entry level PVS -7 monocular from a Real NV person you can talk with; such as http://www.sightowl.com/ ; he will talk with you has the knowledge and I could recommend him anytime for any repair or advice. I wish I knew someone else to recommend but the other guys are all to busy; too unreliable or overly expensive for the same items
You really need to substantiate your allegations when you post something like this. Just because a unit generates high voltages inside does not mean that it generates ionizing radiation. The US military wouldn't issue these units to the troops if there was a hazardous condition. I suspect that the retailers you quote are looking for a reason to declare military equipment hazardous just to justify sales of their high priced Gen3 equipment.
 

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Russian Night Vision??

I am not sure if you read my post correctly The US government does not to my limited knowledge issue Russian Night Vision Equipment; ask anyone that routininely works on Russian Night Vision; and also I will find out where I read it. The military units were banned from importation for a reason, and I suspect it was due to high emissions through the objective lense. Others also posted the problem with Russian Units; maybe they have the website that published the Russian Tube warning. Also The Phospher that is contained in our Nightvision tubes is poisonous; like the phosphor in our Television tubes; but I was also told Russian tubes are even worse than our stuff should the tube be broken and the dust inhaled. You make the choice-- I won't use the stuff; My Russian units are for display only!! i also have a complete collection of USGI Night Vision scopes from the PVS 1 to Pvs 4; also TVS 2 and TVS 2B, TVS 4 and TVS 4A, an TVS 5 . I like thaem all-- They work great and some of them are equal or better than the USGI PVS 14 monocular -- So depending on what you what and it's application the USED USGI stuff; is the best unit for the money !!
 

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Night Vision !!

Sorry maybe should have clarified-- Russian Stuff is a nice look at a expensive knockoff of a USGI Unit-- Same with all Combloc stuff -- A copy of US Stuff !! Buy the real thing !!
 

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Do any of you guys have any links to any sites that have info on the russian scoples. for all i know it may be some type of thermal scope. i want to know if i have got a sow's ear or a silk purse and how to get it operational again.
 

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"You must be joking...."

OH NO! NOT JOEKEN AGAIN!!! Don't buy THEIR night vision stuff -- whoever the manufacturer! You'll never get it!!!
 

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Well; again??

A famous last word to all of you guys out there. A friend of mine who was in country in Vietnam was told by the higher ups that the defoliate powder that was all over there AO was not harmful to the guys on the ground-- they slept in it , it was in their water all over everything-- Well guess what the government took how many years to admit Agent Orange was a big problem. How many of the guys that were in contact with it died?? no one will ever know.
 

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Ouchman said:
x vet,
Bblka -turn off
rpkoctb-brightness
cetku-grids
3akpbito-closed
otkpbito-open
npabo-right
Bhu3-down
BBEpX-up
best i can do.
Thanks bud. i will see if i can get a pic of it to post on here.
 
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