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I don't understand how any auction house in this day-and-age can't get their act together and at the very least stream an audio feed of the auction on the internet.

Add the fact that they don't have their own live bidding on their own site like RIA and Morphy and several others do.

Add the fact that their Buyer's Premium is 17.5% for bank transfers or pre-approved bank checks, 20.5% for CC payment.

Add the fact that they charge 5.5% sales tax on top of the completed bid + buyer's premium total.

Add the fact that you have to fill out a PAPER LIST OF ITEMS you want to bid on and MAIL OR FAX it to them 2-5 days in advance of the auction if you want to phone bid, they call you, you can't call them to bid without being pre-screened.

Add the fact that you have to use a 3rd party online auction company like Proxbid or Invaluable to bid live on the internet, and even they don't provide audio or video, and they add additional percentage points to the buyer's premium.

Add the fact that they started 19 minutes late today.


In summary: Poulin provides less services, charges higher premiums, and is in the technological stone age. What a joke.
 

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They just dumped the Vickers gun. That auction went from bid to sold in under 10 seconds. Total bullshit.

 

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Yeah but they are still getting good money... T-Gewehr sold at $12k.... thats nearing $15K out of the door! Thats crazy high if you ask me!

So I hate to say it but the results say no need to change....

The BAR was a good deal... about as cheap as I have seen lately.
 

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I didn't see what the Vickers sold for. If that auction house is that inept it may be worth the time to attend the auction in person. I can't imagine all the people they drive off with their bs.
 

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The Vickers went for $11.5K with additional...

UNATTACHED ACCESSORIES: 6 belts: 4 belts marked “.303” on the brass tabs, 5 are tan plus 1 green, 5 appear to be 250 rd. capacity while 1 has been cut to hold what appears to be just over 100. / 2 metal ammo cans, both white & marked “BOX. BELT. VICKERS-.303 M.G. NO10”. / 4 Vickers related books: 2 Cornell Publications reprints & original “300 VICKERS MACHINE GUN MECHANISM MADE EASY”, Cornell Publications reprint of “Small Arms Training Volume I, Pamphlet No. 7 303-inch Machine Gun Part I.-Mechanical Subjects 1939” & “Small Arms Identification Series 303 Vickers Medium Machine Gun” by Ian Skennerton. / Water can marked on top “1939 Petroleum Spirit Highly Flammable” measuring 6x10x11” & hose. / Belt box carrier marked “Carrier, Belt Box”, “303 IN, VICKERS MG. MKII” measuring 18x5x5”. / 4 Spare Vickers locks, 3 of which appear to be 8mm & 1 that appears to be 303 British. / 4 Spare bbls., 3 appear to be 8mm & 1 303 British. / Belt loading machine & belt stretcher. / Tripod, cradle & anti-aircraft expansion.
 

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I was going to bid on that Vickers. It literally went available and closed in 10 seconds. Bullshit.
 

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The Vickers went for $11.5K with additional...

UNATTACHED ACCESSORIES: 6 belts: 4 belts marked “.303” on the brass tabs, 5 are tan plus 1 green, 5 appear to be 250 rd. capacity while 1 has been cut to hold what appears to be just over 100. / 2 metal ammo cans, both white & marked “BOX. BELT. VICKERS-.303 M.G. NO10”. / 4 Vickers related books: 2 Cornell Publications reprints & original “300 VICKERS MACHINE GUN MECHANISM MADE EASY”, Cornell Publications reprint of “Small Arms Training Volume I, Pamphlet No. 7 303-inch Machine Gun Part I.-Mechanical Subjects 1939” & “Small Arms Identification Series 303 Vickers Medium Machine Gun” by Ian Skennerton. / Water can marked on top “1939 Petroleum Spirit Highly Flammable” measuring 6x10x11” & hose. / Belt box carrier marked “Carrier, Belt Box”, “303 IN, VICKERS MG. MKII” measuring 18x5x5”. / 4 Spare Vickers locks, 3 of which appear to be 8mm & 1 that appears to be 303 British. / 4 Spare bbls., 3 appear to be 8mm & 1 303 British. / Belt loading machine & belt stretcher. / Tripod, cradle & anti-aircraft expansion.
That seems like a pretty good deal to me:unsure:
 

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I guess I just don't get why prices seem to be going up on these MGs. I guess we have a lot of optimist with more out of work than in the great depression, Riots everywhere, a Pandemic... I guess they are figuring the money is going to be inflating quickly....
 

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That seems like a pretty good deal to me:unsure:

It's a smoking deal. I was going to bid! Auction went available and closed in 10 seconds. All others are taking at least a minute and go through the ONCE, TWICE, SOLD (green, yellow, red) indicators, the Vickers did not.

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It's a smoking deal. I was going to bid! Auction went available and closed in 10 seconds. All others are taking at least a minute and go through the ONCE, TWICE, SOLD (green, yellow, red) indicators, the Vickers did not.

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Sounds like a inside job, I've never followed any of the online Auctions maybe it's time I start.
 

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I guess I just don't get why prices seem to be going up on these MGs. I guess we have a lot of optimist with more out of work than in the great depression, Riots everywhere, a Pandemic... I guess they are figuring the money is going to be inflating quickly....

I totally agree with this! I'm really surprised and the prices people are paying. I'm beginning to wonder if it is the non-shooter/non-enthusiast investment crowd who are unsure of the Wall Street casino and are investing in other things (not like NFA items are a sure bet either). Like all those people that bought the transferrable HK sears and trigger packs, never fired them, then flipped them 2-3 years later for a 50-75% profit.
 

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I totally agree with this! I'm really surprised and the prices people are paying. I'm beginning to wonder if it is the non-shooter/non-enthusiast investment crowd who are unsure of the Wall Street casino and are investing in other things (not like NFA items are a sure bet either). Like all those people that bought the transferrable HK sears and trigger packs, never fired them, then flipped them 2-3 years later for a 50-75% profit.
I don't know what it is. In uncertain times I get why M16s and Uzis might be going up. However a $15K T-Gewehr out the door... I mean I have one, I am happy to see it worth more but that is crazy high. With near zero ammo supply, its not like you are going to beat back the end times with that gun. There does not seem to be any logic to it. With the Federal Government giving away money like candy, maybe this is showing us that they are going to inflate the money supply at any cost... So people are buying things likely to hold value rather then saving cash. I am doing my best not to spend an extra penny right now and maybe thats a dumb idea...
 

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If I was the owner/seller of any of these items I'd be PISSED.

Lot 1047
Estimate: 400,000.00 - 750,000.00 USD
Hammer price: $300,000

Lot 1048
Estimate: 120,000.00 - 150,000.00 USD
Hammer Price: $75,000

Lot 1048
Estimate: 45,000.00 - 65,000.00 USD
Hammer Price: $45,000

Lot 1049
Estimate: 30,000.00 - 45,000.00 USD
Hammer Price: $34,000
 

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Hammer looks to be $15K on the BAR. $11.5k on the Vickers
I considered that Group Industries BAR, and was wanting to see what the BREN sold for.
If the BAR closed at $15K then add 25% for the fee's and sales tax.
I saw a Group BAR on the David Spiwak site for $20K and it sat for quite a while.

I did try and LOGON at Proxibid this morning to place bids on the G41's, but after 10 minutes of waiting to logon I had to get to work.
Fortunately none of the employee's asked why the front door was opened 4 minutes late!

Richard
 
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