[dobber500]

i was just wondering what the differance in a full-auto and a semi-auto rsp is any info is wanted

thanx

 

[L999here]

....80% vs. 100% RSP...?

Full auto right side plates are illegal unless they were mfged. before May 1986. Semi-auto plates are the only ones available and full auto parts will not and cannot be made to fit. We are talking a federal felony here....10 yrs min. and $250,000.00 fine. There are several differences between the 80% and the 100% right side plate (RSP) of the 1919A4/6 and 1917's (semi-auto). Major difference is the presence of the drilled holes and a 'denial island'. Usually an 80% RSP has only one or two selected holes....the rest may or may not have 'starter' holes....but usually the lock frame hole and maybe the pintle hole...depends on the mfg. Usually the 80% RSP has the mill work done completly for the fit of the trunion,top plate, the lock frame and the back plate/grip. Also the slot for the bolt handle has been completed. These milled areas are now (apparently) in contension with the BATFE people recently questioning a mgf. (HALO) that we have bought plates from on this site. The 'denial' island has also been in question (?)....as some have been shortened...some go to the back plate slot. A 100% RSP has all the holes drilled,all mill work completed and.....except for the champfering of the rivet holes....is ready to rivet together. At least this is how I've seen most RSP's called 100%. However...and this is my personal view...a 100% RSp should be just that....100% COMPLETE AND FINISHED OR PARKED. I will attempt to sell a few of my 100% RSP's (semi-auto) at a later date and on a new thread....stay tuned,as I don't want to 'hi-jack' this thread or get a 'time out' from a moderater. OK,guys....what did I miss....?

 

[George W]

Plates

Well I think you did everything but answer his question.
The thickness of the plate is different.
F/A plate is thinner than the S/A plate
S/A plate is thicker than a F/A plate
You did give him a bunch of usefull and correct info reguarding the plates just not what he asked.
GW

 

[FAL freek]

Well I think you did everything but answer his question.
The thickness of the plate is different.
F/A plate is thinner than the S/A plate
S/A plate is thicker than a F/A plate
You did give him a bunch of usefull and correct info reguarding the plates just not what he asked.
GW

Just an observation from being on another gun board. There are certain groups that try and portray certain groups of gun owners as being extremest for owning a certain type of gun and try and show how easy it is for joe public to take a parts kit and make it into a "bullet hose" by asking questions like what is the difference between a semi auto version of this gun and a gun that will go "happy time". Another board this same question comes up every 5 or 6 months in one version or another. Every gun owner I've ever met has never broken a single law or misused their gun for bad motives. But certain groups like MSM for example like to protray certain hobbiest as being extremist. Hier go the vagueness.

 

[UncleDad]

Its also "interesting" how this sort of question is always asked by someone with a very low post count. In this case , this is his 2nd post. The regulars never seem to ask these kinds of borderline questions.

 

[Mouse]

Its also "interesting" how this sort of question is always asked by someone with a very low post count. In this case , this is his 2nd post. The regulars never seem to ask these kinds of borderline questions.

Most likely if they're a regular they already know the answer.
I agree lots of pretty edgy questions in the last few months, probably more coming, there's an election coming up you know.

 

[Bill S]

i was just wondering what the differance in a full-auto and a semi-auto rsp is any info is wanted

thanx

Don't know why others are afraid to give you a straight answer, but here goes. A semi-auto plate has raised portions that prevent the original full-auto parts from being installed. There are various configurations of these raised portions, depending on the manufacturer, but they all serve the same purpose.

Once you have a semi-auto sideplate, you have to have internals that fit the gun. Most people make the semi internals partly out of original parts and partly out of new parts specifically designed to be semi-auto. These new parts include a trigger and a sear, both of which have been redesigned to prevent full auto function. The original internal parts must be modified first to accept the new trigger and sear, then to fit the new shape of the receiver. Once the original parts have been modified it is impossible to fit a full auto sear and trigger into them.

You MAY NOT modify the original parts to fit into the new receiver until they have been changed to accept the new sear and trigger. To do so would qualify you for an extended vacation behind bars.

Most people send the internals out to a specialist who knows how to make the proper modifications. They come back to you in safe and legal configuration, and you can then install the new trigger and sear and assemble your gun.

 

[Bill S]

Its also "interesting" how this sort of question is always asked by someone with a very low post count. In this case , this is his 2nd post. The regulars never seem to ask these kinds of borderline questions.

It would be much more interesting if it was someone with a high post count asking this question, since it is obviously a beginner's type question.