[heckinohio]

In August I transferred a BAR to a WVa dealer. About 5 weeks as I recall now. Forms 4 were immediately submitted to transfer from that SOT to a WVa resident (real actual buyer), in mid Sept. Is now mid Jan. and as of yesterday, forms are still a no show.

A couple I did for myself during the '07 year came back so quickly that I thought they were back for correcting.

Anyone else having a slow return of their Form 4s????

 

[blackrifles]

Heck,

A large percentage of examiners have moved up the ladder, so they're having to train a bunch of replacements, until they get things squared away there will be delays. Still MUCH better than the old D.C. gang, try 11 months for a F3, and 6 months for F4.

 

[ZoLtAr1]

Uh Oh.. I just sent in my F4 on Thurs.. Kinda hoping it would take a month or so.. I put it attn of the girl that did my last one, so maybe that might help it along? It's too bad you have to go thru all the same hoops each time, instead of once your approved, they just run your name for the next one, and stamp it. Now that would make sense..

 

[B.A.R. gunner]

i just recently had a form 3 approved. it took 25 days to get the forms back and was initially faxed in december 21st 2007 (considering this was over the holidays i think that was amazingly fast, my opinion only)

ill report on the form 4 speed

 

[weasel_master]

Going to report on the gun you're getting? You know I'm dying for it.

 

[B.A.R. gunner]

Going to report on the gun you're getting? You know I'm dying for it.

Patchett machine carbine
AKA
sterling mk4 L2A3

 

[heckinohio]

Sold BAR!!!!

Gents.......this is one I sold!!!!!!! Just dont understand why the buyer hasnt gotten it yet from his instate dealer. I still have a Isralei FAL and a shorty Bushmaster to sell yet.

For you BAR enthusiasts;

 

[Rory]

i submitted mine in late december hope that it doesn't take a few months. i was pretty excited about the 4 week turnaround on my mac last summer.

tell the end buyer to call his examiner person, maybe the paperwork is delayed on accident?


r

 

[Rory]

and i am more of a fan of the bottom left in the image

r

 

[slowfire]

The form 1 I submitted in april 07 took 28 day to come back to tme.......the last one I did on 1 nov 07, took 45 days. You have to look at a couple of things, 1) there are only 5 or 6 examiners, the ones you sign the approvals, one of them just does SOTs, so that leaves 4 or 5..........2) then there are folks who normally couldn't get a CLEO sign off, now are doing the trust route, so that is going to bring the paperwork influx up.

 

[renovate7]

Received a form 4 on Friday. 6 wks mailbox to mailbox. 28 Thompson.

 

[ZoLtAr1]

Good deal.. Now I hope mine takes that or less time.

 

[Lone Ranger]

FWIW, the examiner that will do your paper is determined by the first letter of your last name.

Bit of a crap shoot at the moment due to a couple of departures. Some are buried, others not.

 

[slowfire]

FWIW, the examiner that will do your paper is determined by the first letter of your last name.

my last one has 2 signatures on it..........go figure. and neither of them are the same person that did my previous one.

 

[heckinohio]

I guess this is relegated to the 'craps shoot' category.........I had a couple of very timely ones early in '07 but been downhill since. This guy is far more patient than I would be................I have transferred about 500 guns over the past 23 years, and it was more consistant in the '80s-'90s than now, I think they had a 90 day 'carved in stone' time set up. There always seem to be a few glitches, (366 days from a SOT in Cin. to me in the '80s) but you could count on 3 months being the normal..............apparently there is no more 'normal'......

 

[Lone Ranger]

When someone leaves, the letters that person had are redistributed, so the assignments are bound to change occasionally. Also, forms are assigned as they come in daily - you might be lucky one day and not so lucky the next. Numerous openings were posted some time back, but hiring is not a quick thing in most gov agcys.

As for the signatures, can't tell you the history there - if you run into some of the older forms the director's signature was on there, at other times the branch chief, sometimes examiner and first line supervisor, now examiners. It would be a neat bit of trivial knowledge to know.