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· PhD in Over-Engineering
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Gentlemen,

This is for 30-06 shooters only. Having had occasional issues with ammo that was a bit on the short side, and seen a few posts about this issue in recent months, I thought I would share an all too obvious solution to the feeding problems caused by this dilemma. I am sure others knew about this, but I had to learn for myself. Hard lessons are always the best, eh?

Recently I was at a local range where magnetic projos are a no no. So I had bought some ungodly expensive commercial ammo to play around with. Being noticeably shorter than surplus, the expected feeding problems were the result. Really messed up the fun.

Well, I was perusing a military manual not long ago. In doing so, I rediscovered the solution that had been developed for just such an issue. Lo and Behold, the Short Round Stop. Wouldn't you know, it is designed to do exactly as the nomenclature implies: allow the gun to function with short ammo. Remembering that I had a couple lying around that I hadn't known what to do with, I took them to the range last weekend. Time to put those accursed commercial rounds back in the feedway.

And what to my wondering eyes would I find? The gun functioned flawlessly with short ammo and the stop in place. Just to be sure, I removed the stop and fired a couple more rounds. Sure enough, the gun failed to extract a round from the belt twice in a row. Put the stop back in, and it finished the belt without a hitch.

While feeling quite stupid about something that should have been so obvious, I figured confession would be good for the soul. So for any of you who have had this happen with short 30-06 ammo, get yourself a Short Round Stop and keep it in your shooting box.

Now this works only for 30-06. 8mm and 308 use the spacer that encloses the 30-06 right front stop, and that is exactly where the SR Stop goes too. But for you -06 guys, this can make your day a lot less frustrating, should you be stuck with short rounds at the range one day.

 

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Source for short round stop?

Were you shooting standard 150 or 165 grain soft points? And the best source for a short round stop would be?
 

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You know, I forgot the weight, but these were FMJ. I have used some soft points in the past, but didn't have the short OAL problem. As for the Short Round Stop, OOW has them for about 7 bucks. I tried posting a pic above, but it isn't showing. I am still learning this mod business, so I don't know if there is some reason it won't show here. I'll figure it out. Meanwhile, go to the OOW page for 1919 parts, and you'll see it with the regular cartridge stops.
 

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The fit over the front stop was tight enough to require tapping in place, as well as for removal. I removed it for normal ammunition. My guess is that if one were taking in on and off frequently, it might loosen up. But I wouldn't be concerned about staking it unless it becomes loose enough to move on its own. Doubtful.
 

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I believe the short round stop was standard begining with the 1919A6 to improve feeding with links. I believe they were supposed to be held in with a pin of some kind but mine also fit snug over the front cartridge stop without one. There was no hole drilled for a pin. I believe the hole would have had to be in the front cartridge top as the short round stop had a slot milled in it that looks like where a pin would go. Some kits come with the short round stop and some don't. Mine from SARCO 14 years ago did.
 

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Short round stop

My OOW kit came with one, sort of, they sent a 7.62X51 by mistake and when I returned the barrel and cartridge stops, they sent the .30'06 barrel and the short round stop.

Mine has two notches where it looks like it could be staked to the front cartridge stop, it was a little loose so I drilled and tapped a 6/32 hole in the rear surface and used a hex set screw to hold it in place. Not original, but neither is my OOW/Izzy/Saginaw A4/A6 mutt, but it works well. I recently loaded up some Hornady 147 gn FMJBT in LC cases, won't feed without short round stop, with it they run like "**** thru a tin horn" One of my Father-in-law's favorite expressions.
 

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CaptRay1917 and also used these things with good success on the Turk 8mm to reduce the amount top cover blow ups. It didn't quite fix it but it did slow down the frequency a lot.
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I'm thinking a short round stop will be necessary if anyone reloads 30-06 with the m-80 bullet. A loaded 30-06 will be shorter with this bullet than a standard M2 ball rd.
I'm preparing for the day when I run out of 8mm to shoot in my F/A 1917A1 and original 152 grain 30-06 ball bullets are virtually non existent.

anyone with any experience in this area?


steve
 
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