[heckinohio]

the same tone of voice that one would expect to be used with a referrence to bubonic plague!!!! It is quite apparent that he doesnt know that there are privately owned machine guns in the US.........

Stay tuned!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[Finalygotabeltfed]

the same tone of voice that one would expect to be used with a referrence to bubonic plague!!!! It is quite apparent that he doesnt know that there are privately owned machine guns in the US.........

Stay tuned!!!!!!!!!!!!1

They know full well that machineguns exist in private hands.
What they were doing was making sure that the case being brought before them was narrowly tailored to handguns and not an all encompassing broad spectrum case involving everything else.

 

[762x51]

They know full well that machineguns exist in private hands.
What they were doing was making sure that the case being brought before them was narrowly tailored to handguns and not an all encompassing broad spectrum case involving everything else.

Maybe not -

In listening to Robert's questions I had the feeling that he was leaning towards a ruling that would put the question of the 2nd to bed and that he would like to see it ruled as a right with the same weight as the 1st and others that protect our civil rights.

I think his major concern was over what would be reasonable restrictions to firearms ownership; such as denying felons, those found to be mentally deficient, and the like ownership rights.

I also had the impression that all of the justices, even those on the left, felt it is a individual right and not a collective right.

I don't think that Alan Gura did us any favors with his backstrokes on Class III weapons and he was supposed to be on "our" side.

Just my opinion and worth every penny paid for it -

 

[Rory]

and it was mentioned that there were "in excess of ONE HUNDRED THOUUUUSAAANNNDDD" machine guns in private hands.


what they didn't know was that heckinohio owns half of them


hahaha
rory

 

[Luke]

I am surprised that there are only 100,000 legal machine guns, no wonder thr prices are so high!

 

[2ndShooter]

and it was mentioned that there were "in excess of ONE HUNDRED THOUUUUSAAANNNDDD" machine guns in private hands.


what they didn't know was that heckinohio owns half of them


hahaha
rory

Keep in mind they also mentioned that 80-100,000 people are killed in the U.S. by firearms.

I'm not sure what crack they are smoking, but looking out my window I dont see a real life re-play of the Matrix

Ive never wanted to be a lawyer, but man I could have **** all over their arguments and we would all be doing F/A build parties this summer

 

[2ndShooter]

Maybe not -

In listening to Robert's questions I had the feeling that he was leaning towards a ruling that would put the question of the 2nd to bed and that he would like to see it ruled as a right with the same weight as the 1st and others that protect our civil rights.

I think his major concern was over what would be reasonable restrictions to firearms ownership; such as denying felons, those found to be mentally deficient, and the like ownership rights.

I also had the impression that all of the justices, even those on the left, felt it is a individual right and not a collective right.

I don't think that Alan Gura did us any favors with his backstrokes on Class III weapons and he was supposed to be on "our" side.

Just my opinion and worth every penny paid for it -

I pray that you are right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If so whats the next step? Calling the ATF and telling them we are slapping a Ma Duece together and not to expect paper-work or a $200 check

 

[moosiah]

the oral arguments are mostly a show for the masses........ most of the arguments are filed as paper briefs, and are perussed back at the office by staffers that then tell their Judge what they think is so

 

[scotty1418]

If you read the transcript, there have to be over 20 mentions of machine guns by various individuals.

A later number is quoted as 160k which one of the justices still quoted as being very rare.

Mostly they used the concept of a machine gun to equate to reasonable limits.

 

[Lucky#13]

According to the ATF NFA official I heard in the NFATCA meetings in conjunction with the SAR shows, there are something over !80,000 transferables in the registry. I can't recall if it was 182,000 or 185,000 or 189,000 but it was in that range.

 

[Lone Ranger]

According to the ATF NFA official I heard in the NFATCA meetings in conjunction with the SAR shows, there are something over !80,000 transferables in the registry. I can't recall if it was 182,000 or 185,000 or 189,000 but it was in that range.

182 is very close.

 

[Lone Ranger]

When a softball comes in, SWING... or not.

JUSTICE GINSBURG: But why wouldn't the machine gun qualify? General Clement told us that's standard issue in the military. MR. GURA: But it's not an arm of the type that people might be expected to possess commonly in ordinary use. That's the other aspect of Miller. Miller spoke about the militia as encompassing the notion that people would bring with them arms of the kind in common use supplied by themselves.

CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: Is there any parallel at the time that the amendment was adopted to the machine gun? In other words, I understand your point to be that, although that's useful in modern military service, it's not something civilians possess. Was there anything like that at the time of the adoption, or were the civilian arms exactly the same as the ones you'd use in the military?
MR. GURA: At the time that -- even at the time Miller was decided, the civilian arms were pretty much the sort that were used in the military. However, it's hard to imagine how a machine gun could be a "lineal descendent," to use the D.C. Circuit's wording, of anything that existed back in 1791, if we want to look to the framing era. Machine guns -

JUSTICE KENNEDY: It seems to me that Miller, as we're discussing it now, and the whole idea that the militia clause has a major effect in interpreting the operative clause is both overinclusive and underinclusive. I would have to agree with Justice Ginsburg that a machine gun is probably more related to the militia now than a pistol is. But that -- that seems to me to be allowing the militia clause to make no sense out of the operative clause in present-day circumstances. MR. GURA: Your Honor, even within the militia understanding, the understanding of the militia was always that people would bring whatever they had with them in civilian life. So if a machine gun, even though it may be a wonderful-