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I have it plugged into the DVR, been looking forward to it for a while now. Dude is a ACLU type, but this episode looks good.
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There were two last night, unsure on re-runs. It was good - very fair. The anti came away with a different tune. Same old same old: never touched a gun, scared to death of them but after finding out reality vs. myth admitted that some people could actually own guns without being murderers.
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I think it's on again either Thursday or Friday, around 10PM
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I saw about 15 minutes of it. It's hard for me to stay up that late.
There was a scene in the garage or basement where the gal is sitting talking about 4 deaths in a year, and that it's an epidemic. That there needs to be a law to stop the private sales.
The gun nut was mostly at a loss of words.
I could have countered it two ways:
1) There's 4,000 deaths involving automobiles in cali every year. By that arguement, this issue is 1,000 times more important, and we should put tighter restrictions on ownership and transfers.
Of course, it's not going to stop morons, drunks, or illegals, so it will have little effect.
2) There's already over 40,000 guns laws. Each was passed with the premise that it would prevent crime. Each one has had either a massive failure, a tiny barely measureable change (less than 10%) which was claimed as a success, or it completely and uterly backfired causing a surge in crime (often in mutliples of the original rate)
Is one more gun law going to help? If something has failed 40,000 times I'm quite certain that it will fail again.
There was a scene in the garage or basement where the gal is sitting talking about 4 deaths in a year, and that it's an epidemic. That there needs to be a law to stop the private sales.
The gun nut was mostly at a loss of words.
I could have countered it two ways:
1) There's 4,000 deaths involving automobiles in cali every year. By that arguement, this issue is 1,000 times more important, and we should put tighter restrictions on ownership and transfers.
Of course, it's not going to stop morons, drunks, or illegals, so it will have little effect.
2) There's already over 40,000 guns laws. Each was passed with the premise that it would prevent crime. Each one has had either a massive failure, a tiny barely measureable change (less than 10%) which was claimed as a success, or it completely and uterly backfired causing a surge in crime (often in mutliples of the original rate)
Is one more gun law going to help? If something has failed 40,000 times I'm quite certain that it will fail again.
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wow she was that bad huh?
i was watching deadliest catch
did anyone see the whole thing, did she end up any better off than when she started?
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i was watching deadliest catch
did anyone see the whole thing, did she end up any better off than when she started?
GR
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She took the guy to a park to meet core members of Ceasefire!
Deadliest Catch is time better spent.
Deadliest Catch is time better spent.
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IMO, it was well worth watching. She ends up shooting skeet and pistol before its over and fesses up that she didn't understand the other side before this. I kept it, will probably watch one more to see what I missed forst time through. Oh, and she got put to work in a gun store.... SELLING GUNS!wow she was that bad huh?
i was watching deadliest catch
did anyone see the whole thing, did she end up any better off than when she started?
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It was worth watching, they filmed it the spring of '07, a buddy of mine got in the footage toward the end at the USPSA match they showed, he was moving out of the shooting box, wants an agent now. When it started she (Pia) was rabid anti gun, when the guy took her to the range the first time to shoot skeet she started bawling after the first shot, said she thought of someone getting shot at each blast.
By the end she was shooting handguns and shotguns and was proud of her ability to actually be pretty good with a handgun, understood why people might enjoy the challange.
I think the guy handled it the right way, instead of arguing with her over "facts" where she would have dug in and felt her opions of gun owners were valid he let it soak in slowly.
. When it started she (Pia) was rabid anti gun, when the guy took her to the range the first time to shoot skeet she started bawling after the first shot, said she thought of someone getting shot at each blast.By the end she was shooting handguns and shotguns and was proud of her ability to actually be pretty good with a handgun, understood why people might enjoy the challange.
I think the guy handled it the right way, instead of arguing with her over "facts" where she would have dug in and felt her opions of gun owners were valid he let it soak in slowly.
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Now that you say it... to argue with reason and facts with such a person like that, whom came to thier opinion without reason and without facts will not likely succeed.
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Just found this, it is the episode if anyone missed it.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/25712/30-days-gun-nation
http://www.hulu.com/watch/25712/30-days-gun-nation
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