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SYRACUSE, N.Y. — A 22-gun British warship that sank during the American Revolution and has long been regarded as one of the "Holy Grail" shipwrecks in the Great Lakes has been discovered at the bottom of Lake Ontario, astonishingly well-preserved in the cold, deep water, explorers announced Friday.

Shipwreck enthusiasts Jim Kennard and Dan Scoville used side-scanning sonar and an unmanned submersible to locate the HMS Ontario, which was lost with barely a trace and as many as 130 people aboard during a gale in 1780.

The 80-foot sloop of war is the oldest shipwreck and the only fully intact British warship ever found in the Great Lakes, Scoville and Kennard said.

"To have a Revolutionary War vessel that's practically intact is unbelievable. It's an archaeological miracle," said Canadian author Arthur Britton Smith, who chronicled the history of the HMS Ontario in a 1997 book, "The Legend of the Lake."

The finders of the wreck said they regard it as a war grave and have no plans to raise it or remove any of its artifacts. They said the ship is still considered the property of the British Admiralty.

Although the vessel sits in an area where the water is up to 500 feet deep and cannot be reached by anyone but the most experienced divers, Kennard and Scoville declined to give its exact location, saying only that it was found off the southern shore.

The sloop was discovered resting partially on its side, with two masts extending more than 70 feet above the lake bottom.

"Usually when ships go down in big storms, they get beat up quite a bit. They don't sink nice and square. This went down in a huge storm, and it still managed to stay intact," Scoville said. "There are even two windows that aren't broken. Just going down, the pressure difference, can break the windows. It's a beautiful ship."

Smith, who was shown underwater video of the find, said: "If it wasn't for the zebra mussels, she looks like she only sunk last week."

The dark, cold freshwater acts as a perfect preservative, Smith said. At that depth, there is no light and no oxygen to hasten decomposition, and little marine life to feed on the wood.

The Ontario went down on Oct. 31, 1780, with a garrison of 60 British soldiers, a crew of about 40, mostly Canadians, and possibly about 30 American war prisoners.

The warship had been launched only five months earlier and was used to ferry troops and supplies along upstate New York's frontier. Although it was the biggest British ship on the Great Lakes at the time, it never saw battle, Smith said.
 

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God, I love this ****,,, there is a guy that has the rights to raise logs that sunk while being towed to the mill,,, its amazing how cold deep water will preserve things. Great post! :)
 

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Yes very cool, thanks for posting

Ive heard of the guy that raises logs out of there, like only he knows where they are or something... doesnt he sell the wood to a violin manufacturer that gives him a premium??
 

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that is cool and in my backyard. that logging guy actually made a deal with the state(for a small percentage of the profits)to get sole rights to do it and the wood on average sells for 32.00 a square foot but it is worth it for the grain figure and density because it is fisrt growth lumber.
 

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A few years back, my town drained the pond in the middle of town to rebuild a fountain. There were a bunch of old saw logs that had gotten water logged and sunk to the bottom. I frantically looked for a way to get some of them up to my house as I had at the time a chain saw lumber mill. Couldn't get it done and they sank again when the pond was re filled. Threre were some real nice ones,, straight as a gun barrel. Hemlock they were,, I have since shipped my mill to Costa Rica to my step son's farm,,, oh well,, they're still there,,,
 

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Where's the ATF to raid the ship and confiscate the unregistered guns? :rolleyes:
 

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its amazing how cold deep water will preserve things.

Cold deep fresh water perhaps. Cold deep water didn't do a thing for the Titanic.
 
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