[GUNRUNNER5150]

yet another example of mexican military coming into arizona and our leadership dont care. At least this is making it onto the mainstream media now i guess.

This happened earlier this week

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ad4_1218245650

heres a bit older one i found when watching the above one.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bbe_1194570857

GR

 

[phalanx]

GR few people will listen to you , in fact people in the east will demand a link or you are full of it.
Link or not its hard to believe a town of 1.600 people are all lieing including the LEOs and Churches.
An incident happened in 2002 where the site Ranch Rescue had videos of the Mexican Army with Armor under the Mexican flag driving through the Desert .
They were headed North 65 miles from the Border ,headed to a Ranch House where they forcefully abducted a Man and his Daughter and took them back to Mexico.
The Locals say it was over another incident where this Rancher fired on Mexicans that continued to steal his Cattle.
Neither one of them has been seen sense , the people of the town were terrified feeling the US Government would do nothing to protect them.
Another Video surfaced where two Texas DPS Troopers filmed Mexican Soldiers carrying G3 Battle Rifles fired on them ,and then were looking through some brush looking for them.
Its going to come to a head soon ,and Bush isn't going to be able to hide it , some Americans are patrolling on their own now ,armed and looking for trouble.
Their will be a fire fight and some Mexicans will be dead , Watch Bush put those Americans in Jail and blame them.

 

[Flash-hider]

I still can't believe how the illegal immigration issue has now dropped to a non issue during this election cycle, from what it was a year ago. I thought the national mood was send them all back.

 

[franks71vw]

guys i continue to say it "they dont care" flat out DC is playing a welcome to America greeting like attitude. they DONT CARE

 

[Lone Ranger]

Frank is correct:

unless the citizenry starts writing bigger checks than industry or some monumental event occurs that backs the political rats into a corner, open borders are here to stay.

Look at the number of violent crimes, narcotics, MS-13, etc. If all that isn't enough, it has to be $. Not much different from our foreign oil dependency - bought and paid for over decades.

 

[blackrifles]

At the same time, I'm wondering about what my ancestors said, armed incursions and shoot- outs happening 2 generations ago, southern Kali. That's when dope pushers and small teams of Mexican military simply vanished in the desert, back then Americans didn't call authorities, and authorities told you this without fear. Shoot, shovel, STFU, the relatives/friends of the deceased didn't come looking for them.

 

[Pvt.Joker]

Yep; at SOME point, the LEOs who are getting held at gunpoint are going to start turning a blind eye to US citizens when some of these "incursions" happen, and the Mexicans who invade here start finding themselves running a gaunlet of sniper fire, and simply disappear into the desert. And when the Feds in DC start complaining too much, the local investigators "will know nothing, NO-THING!" Besides, those Mexicans couldn't have been gunned down and left in the desert, because they were never here in the first place, right??? Right... Bush and his open borders policy are in DC, and that's a LONG way from the border.

 

[phalanx]

Joker that is already happening at least in the aspect that some Americans are fed up.
The Minutemen who we have met say that a large group not affiliated with them are showing up down there armed.
They stay to themselves ,and do not run around with a pair of binoculars and a cell phone. They do not pick up or report illegals ,its like they are looking for something else.
They wear full BDUs ,Helmets , and they saw them with two Ferrets and an APC that looked like a Bradly,and the barrels poking out of the turrets or mounted guns didn't look fake.
Their are a lot of guys in Texas that have the money to have some real serious toys.
They are under the American flag , and you and i both know sooner or later the two Armys are going to meet.

Blackrifles , remember when you said that some LE and SF were useing Latin when they talked on any radios ? and even that was in code so you had to know both the language and the code making it fool proof.
The BP told the Minutemen that these guys were speaking Latin to each other , and they always knew when they had arrived .
All activity where they are at stops , and the Sheriff said they bring this stuff in on tractor trailers .
It isnt the Gov., but it is someone with really big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and you cant go by license plates as to where they are from, because they are from all over. DOT, when they weigh or stop the 18 wheelers says the vehicles they are hauling at that time are not armed ,and the driver only knows he is headed to a Ranch location to unload.
They do not come to town , BP says they only have 10 men in that sector and are to short handed ,and the Sheriff dosent want to mess with them either.
They stick to private land , unload there and set up there, so their isnt anything anyone can do to them.
Its a matter of time now that somethings going to happen if it hasn't already.
The BP said in June something big happened to the East of them around 0400 hrs. ,it was fast and furious and was over in 10 Minutes or less.
The radio was filled with men panicking and speaking in Spanish ,and the BP was told not to say a word about what they heard or saw.
The next day an aerial fly over reveled nothing , and when the Feds went to ask the Rancher what happened or who those men were on his land , he just said they were people filming a movie and that stuff happens all the time.

 

[Pvt.Joker]

Aaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnddddddd... ACTION!!!

 

[phalanx]

joker you don't think these guys are Feds do you ?
I mean that would be the way to deal with this without causing an incident.
Still i would of loved to see what really happened that night , and the Ferrets would be a great way to have Armor that was fast and not look to be the stuff the US Army would be useing.
The Mexican Army was never here ? nether was the US Army

 

[Lone Ranger]

Phalanx, you propaganda mill!

Those soldiers crossed the border and pointed their guns @ the BP officer due to a GPS malfunction! The Mexican and U.S. govts. said so, and neither would lie about a serious incident like that.

 

[Pvt.Joker]

joker you don't think these guys are Feds do you ?
I mean that would be the way to deal with this without causing an incident.
Still i would of loved to see what really happened that night , and the Ferrets would be a great way to have Armor that was fast and not look to be the stuff the US Army would be useing.
The Mexican Army was never here ? nether was the US Army

Well, I ain't sayin' one way or the other, but I wouldn't be shocked at all if some of the brass recovered at the scenes of those "movie sets" were sanitized (i.e., no headstamps at all, ala CIA 7.62x39 in Laos/Cambodia, and .30-06 in the Bay of Pigs) Spooks or Rouges, or just a bunch of good ole boys never meanin' no harm- don't matter much to me one way or the other. I just hope they keep on "not being' there" every time these Mexican Army guys "don't cross the border". Shoot'em and leave'em to rot. Like Josey Wales said, "Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms."

 

[blackrifles]

Blackrifles , remember when you said that some LE and SF were using Latin when they talked on any radios ? and even that was in code so you had to know both the language and the code making it fool proof.
The BP told the Minutemen that these guys were speaking Latin to each other , and they always knew when they had arrived .

Thanks, best damn news I've heard all day!


ROTFLMAO, if only 12 pounder was alive to read this, old ghosts back in the game and history repeating itself, we said it was coming. You won't find a trace of engagements, and nobody will be left on the opposing team.

 

[phalanx]

I dunno .it seems if the Gov. didn't have something to do with it they would have been forcing the issue harder.
I asked this one Minuteman ( Steve ) why they haven't been down there in so long and he said it was just getting to crazy.
In the first days the wets would actually surrender to them to get some water and they were just common folks.
Now its like a turf war , drug lords fight there all the time.
Steve said the last time they were there Helicopters were all over the skies , he couldn't tell who or what but you heard them and saw the lights.
The Re-Conquista is a real dream to the Mexicans , and the way Bush acts its like he is just giving it to them.
It was just my thoughts about those guys being the Gov. , but everyones here says they are not but i wish i knew who they would be.
I haven't seen them because i don't go down there , but a lot of those people who do have seen them at a distance , and heard the BP advise them to stay clear of certain areas.
I feel sorry for the BP , their moral is next to nothing and they are out gunned and out numbered ,and seem to no longer have any authority.

 

[Pvt.Joker]

I haven't seen them because i don't go down there , but a lot of those people who do have seen them at a distance , and heard the BP advise them to stay clear of certain areas.
I feel sorry for the BP , their moral is next to nothing and they are out gunned and out numbered ,and seem to no longer have any authority.

Or maybe they don't have any authorization, rather than any authority. All those Homeland Security dollars that funded all these depts (local LEO and up) to buy all this paramilitary gear a while back; perhaps there's a wee bit 'o "Star Chamber" justice going on, in the off hours? As a Southerner, it wouldn't be the first time ever heard of that a LEO or two was Johnny Law in the daytime, and Johnny Reb after the sun went down- ESPECIALLY when morale is "low" and their hands are tied in their day jobs. I'm just sayin...

 

[blackrifles]

Joker,

You are partially correct, but my bet is some of them are govt/current mil/ex-mil, and you don't want to know the rest of the story, might be "spooky".

 

[Pvt.Joker]

Joker,

You are partially correct, but my bet is some of them are govt/current mil/ex-mil, and you don't want to know the rest of the story, might be "spooky".

I don't have a NEED to know, and honestly I don't care if they are- I'm just glad that SOMEONE is doing SOMETHING to try and fight back. Best of luck to them!

 

[kansasrebel]

I'm raising a toaste to them, and to more like them. Cheers!!!

 

[blackrifles]

Same here, and I hope those men are doing fine.

 

[phalanx]

One of the Minuteman organizers out of Arizona told Steve and his bunch they wouldn't be doing much until the end of October.
I called Steve after i posted that to see if he knew of anything new in that story and he said he didn't, except some of the NG troops were going home now.
But they are going about their routine armed now also and the ACLU hasn't been there in some time.
Bob the guy in Arz. had told Steve he was there in June when that happened.
He said that wasn't any Damn Movie set at 0400 , the sky lite up to the East like
something big was on fire .
Radios were so jammed up with BS he couldn't understand a word.
The next morning the Sheriff came over and told them they needed to leave or move West about 10 miles.
How could you keep that a secret ? what would you do with your wounded ?
Steve dosent believe it is Feds , the Ranch they work off of is one big place and the Rancher is filthy rich from oil.
In 2006 that Rancher filed a protest to the Feds about how his Cattle were being stolen and his Caballeros reported to him three times about Mexican Soldiers being on his land.
Drug runners were shooting at them and they were afraid to go back out there.
Who knows ,but who would be big enough and armed that well to hire out like that?