[GUNRUNNER5150]

a buddy of mine has this rifle his grandpa left him, curious what it is and what they are generally worth. He believes it is .303 cal. Im not real familiar with these ones but im thinking its an enfield of some sort because of the magazine, the only ones i really recognize are the mk4's i believe that have wood all the way up the barrel so im not sure of this one.

Any help appreciated. I guess the condition could be called 'fair' as it does shoot but its a lil beat up.

GR

 

[AaronHorrocks]

Dude, that's the Jungle version!

SWEEET FIND MAN!

And yes, it's in .303

 

[KABAR2]

Not the jungle carbine, no flash hider with front sight, no recoil pad . standard MKIII* Enfield that
someone sporterized sorry.

 

[AaronHorrocks]

Here's some more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Carbine

Yes, it's unreliable Wiki, but it's better than nuttin

 

[sweetwine]

Enfield

Sporterized No1 mkIII
Check the socket for markings (were the stock meets the receiver under the bolt handle).

You guys should know this, didn't you take rifle identification class 101

 

[rocco1911]

Your rite

Your rite sweetwine hit the nail on the head sorry Aaron no way thats a Jungly

 

[PKw VI Tiger1]

Here's what an unsporterized one looks like. The Commonwealth (England, Australia) used these during WWI and WWII. This one was made by BSA in 1909

Lithgow, Austrailia 1918

 

[AaronHorrocks]

Low res, poor lighting condition photo threw me off.

Looks quite a bit different from my No1 MkIII. Can you get a photo of the sight?

 

[Rory]

not to be an ass but this is not a poor lighting and too low of res unless you are in need of glasses stronger than mine.

 

[Mouse]

Not the jungle carbine, no flash hider with front sight, no recoil pad . standard MKII* Enfield that
someone sporterized sorry.

Indeed.... the buttplate and rear sight tell you what it isn't in a glance.
Too bad it got hacked up, Bubba strikes again.

 

[booger hooker]

I can't view the pictures but it sounds like a sporterized Enfield I bought a few years ago just because it was different since it's a No1 MKV...anybody know anything about them? All I know is that they were produced in '22 & '23 (I believe) and were never officially adopted by the military, any other info I'd be happy to hear about. I've always wanted to put this Enfield condition but don't know what kind of stok they actually came with. Thanks!

 

[mt-ac]

Attention PKw VI Tiger1!

"PKw VI Tiger1: Here's what an unsporterized one looks like. The Commonwealth (England, Australia) used these during WWI and WWII. This one was made by BSA in 1909."

I think that rifle really needs to come and stay with my pathetic Enfield collection, where it will be more comfortable in the midst of its cousins. Does it have the magazine cutoff, not sure from the pictures? Trade for newer model?????

As a side note legend has it that when trying to destroy these rifles the government of Australia found the receivers to be so hard they exported them as surplus here instead.

 

[PKw VI Tiger1]

Yes that one does have the cut-off you can see it infront of the reciever bridge in the 2nd photo. The Lithgow one has the opening for it but they never installed them. And I asked if it would like to make some new friends but it said no, sorry.

 

[GUNRUNNER5150]

ok, so do we know how much they are generally worth? how much are the 'unsporterized' ones going for?

GR

 

[AaronHorrocks]

I ment the front sight, not the rear sight!

Geese these people!

 

[ravenrob]

GR,

unfortunately, one that has been cut up like that isn't worth much. If you find someone that really wants it, you may get $100. or so. Maybe.

Unfortunately, new wood and parts to restore it would probably cost more than you would get back out of it.

 

[mt-ac]

Sporter value

$75-to $100 is approximately the sporter value. And replacement wood when it shows up is in about the same range depending on condition plus you would need barrel bands, nosecap, and rear swivel. A better option is use it as a budget rifle or if you want to spend money buy a synthetic stock and scope mount. Til the AK came along the .303 had the reputation of wounding/taking more game worldwide than any other caliber. Parts value of it is basically the bolt is $25 and the mags now bring $30-40 at gun shows. www.sprinfieldsporters.com is also back in business these days for parts.

 

[Armorer]

To answer your question. Years ago (1950-60's) you could purchase one of these unmodified for about $15.00 and many people thought it necessary to sporterize them. This was done primarily to make them lighter. In the case of this particular rifle that meant removing the muzzle cap, shortening the front stock and for some reason cutting off the the pistol grip on the butt stock. It looks like the barrel may still be original length and with the original front sight. It could be restored to almost original condition but it would involve purchasing a new muzzle cap, barrel band, front stock and butt stock. If the metal parts are in excellent condition it might be worth the expense but from your description it sounds questionable. As to its worth, probably not more than $80.00 to $90.00 at most.

A local gun shop is selling a WWII No.4 Enfield that is in excellent condition but has had the front stock cut down. The barrel has not been cut down and it has the front sight guard in place. To be restored it will need a new front stock and both barrel bands. He is asking $145.00.

 

[GUNRUNNER5150]

ok will let him know, thanks guys.

GR

 

[ScottD]

Just to confirm what they all said......its worth 100 bucks. Put it on gunbroker for 125 and hope for the best.

Its a shame.....I sporterized ONE rifle in my life...a nasty Turk Mauser. I did turn a sewer pipe Mosin into a lamp once.......