[Flash-hider]

If I just want to listen in on what's going on around the world, what are some of the choice's out there.
I'm thinking on keeping a low profile, so antenna's and being able to transmit would defeat that purpose.

 

[Shattered]

Sangean makes some great stuff. Check ccrane.com

 

[Dave S]

If I just want to listen in on what's going on around the world, what are some of the choice's out there.
I'm thinking on keeping a low profile, so antenna's and being able to transmit would defeat that purpose.

As a matter of "low profile", I have personally used a chain link fence to transmit on between 80 and 160 Meters on the Ham bands. Profile is VERY much a term that can be altered to thinking "outside the box"!!!!

You'd be suprised what technology can be adapted to!

Yaesu, Kenwood, Icom, TenTec... They ALL have awesome receiver only units that'll suit your needs, and antenna size is all a mental block! I've also used a wire antenna stretched out to and fastened to a gutter, so it's only what you think you can hide! You'd be suprised what you can do!

 

[phalanx]

Dave is using a long wire , antenna in describing that .I have played with so many different ones and he is right , you can go crazy making this and that then find out it didn't work any better than what you had before . Its mostly for what i want to do or what band my license allows me to talk on.
A Dipole works well ,with an antenna tuner , and for transmitting i just leave it at that. And all the radios he mentioned do make great receivers.
And they make transceivers for about every budget , even some of them have the ability to only have a receiver ,then add a transmitter later if you want and just tie the two together.
For just receiving i like the old tube types because they still have the bands on them the FCC cut out years ago for different use.
Tube types can be bought really cheap on Ebay ,from collectors and they are really tough and don't worry ,Antique Electronics in Arizona sells all the tubes you would need ,and tube testers ,they are new manufacture made in Japan.
In the 80s i listened to Radio Moscow more than i did anything else ,it was like you got a 6 hour jump on any world news ,and it is still to me the best one, and even under the USSR was less slanted than ours were.
Then with the INTERNET the bands got really dead for years ,but in the last two years they seem to be coming back .
But if you turn off your TV because all you see is bad News ,the short wave can be worse except you hear what other Country's really think.
They are really talking about our election and they seem concerned.

 

[Pvt.Joker]

Well, not that it's really their place to decide who we vote for, but I am curious as to what concerns they are expressing exactly. Are they worried we will elect Obama? Or that we will elect McCain? Or just that it won't make any difference, unless we elect someone like Barr? You get the propaganda here with that "they all want us to elect Obama, so we can prove that we are not racists any more"-line of BS, but over there, I wonder what the "free" people on the outside think might help?

 

[Flash-hider]

From what I'm gathering I could turn the barbed wire fence around the cow pasture into a antenna.
Phanlax, I have run across the tube type units but didn't know if spare parts could be had anymore, now I know. Thanks. You also mention about receiving broadcasts out of Russia, are they in English or the native tongue?

 

[phalanx]

Joker it is across the board on opinion ,mostly its like the fear we all felt when the USSR fell . Like what about the Nukes ?
They felt more at ease when we were predictable because they only had to pick up a copy of the Constitution and they had a pretty good idea of what we would do ,and usually it was in our own interest.
As to our enemy's back in the 80s i know they feared the 2nd Amendment ,or any country that allowed its people to own guns.
Any invasion of that country was just not possible.
If they like any of our candidates that is just what country you are listening to.
If they like Obama its because under him what we were will be gone or drastically changed.
McCain they think he is crazy ,and if they like him it is because they are called Mexico ,its like he wakes up in a new world each morning.
Either way they feel we are soon to be very weakened and possibly suffer the same fate the USSR did at our own hands.
Mostly ,it is all hurting us ,its like all the heads of the Hydra are biting each other now.
All bets are on the one agreement that something profound has happened here and just didn't happen by Chance ,and this will never be the old United States again after this.
Some smart broadcasters say that with us changed to be more like most socialist country's in the world may not be such a good thing.
They could always pick on America and blame us even if we didn't do it.
Now it would be what Socialism is the best one that may cause an even more unstable world.
Just because you are a Commie ,dosent make you the kind of Commie we are.

 

[phalanx]

Also people think about this ,the last time i listened to Radio Moscow they were discussing this subject about America in the future.
They have always had really good food for thought even under the USSR.
They said that a weakened or non existent United States is going to be a disaster.
Why? Because it will lead to the largest arms build up and fear mongering the world has ever seen.
Country's like Japan ,and all over the planet will no longer have Big Brother to come save them ,and no longer would have the umbrella of protection.
Japan will emerge as a major Military force again ,it will have no choice.
Israel will have to become even more aggressive to survive.
Germany may do the same as Japan ,and Russia would be open to re-claiming its old Satellites.
The EU ,may not survive ,and with its weakened condition the US couldn't help Mexico or have any influence on South America.
South America would burn ,it would look like parts off Africa.
Now once again Country's may be on their own again ,and a new dark age could happen.
Its possible ,weakened ,its people unarmed and and living sub standard America would become the country to de-stabilize in order to subdue.
Fighting for the worlds resources would escalate with Japan having no other option than to take over lands to survive.
The short end of this is ,in reality it isn't a good thing .
And one day the Libs may be crying for the old country to return ,because now no one will be fighting to defend their right to speak ,and they love to do that.

 

[GS-Patton]

Couldnt agree more Phalanx

 

[blackrifles]

Phalanx,

Remember our talks awhile back? We discussed what would happen when even our military is preoccupied in multiple conflicts, economic difficulties and will be unable to sustain military aid to other countries, Rome had the same problems late in the game, politicians completely corrupt and incompetent, tax payers tired of being bled dry, look what happened. Living proof, history does repeat itself.

 

[phalanx]

Thanks GS ,its like any country with a brain doesn't have a real good feeling about this. The Russians even though they take an aggressive stance toward us ,the US not being what it is now ,wouldn't be so much the focus of attention anymore. Japan is the real example of what things could become ,England will really be in the cross hairs because we are the only reason they can still act like they are better than anyone else.
Their socialism is more like the book 1984 , and Japan knows it will lock horns with China. Moscow believes and so do i ,that The US will no longer be a union of states ,like the USSR some of them will feel they would be better off on there own and that is a no brainier.
Washington what ever that will be ,will be so bankrupt it wouldn't have the resources to do anything about it.
Analyst say that the states surrounding Texas will flock to the Texas Republic producing a fairly large Country ,and you can bet the Borders will be closed then. California being the heavy Communist Country it is now is a toss up ,it would be a prime target for invasion from the Pacific Rim.
Of course this is all just speculation ,but it is a likely scenario.
Either way i don't see this country looking anything like it does now in 50 years.
And a Huge war will happen ,and we may not even be in it other than Texas trying to defend its shores.
But Texas and Alaska could be Country's .not a super power ,but strong enough.
Alaska would be the one that would need to watch its back ,and Texans already have a sense of independent pride making it the most likely to succeed on its own.
This is the discussion you here a lot now from other country's and their talk radio ,its like they don't expect us to survive in any form like we are now.

 

[nitrovieques]

Phalanx,

check your messges....my father does a good deal of the SW stuff, not a freak about it, but a good deal of it. i should put him in touch with you.

later

 

[phalanx]

Black rifles i have said that so many times ,but you never hear it in this country much but over seas the comparison is always done.
You and i agree on that because we have studied this ,and the very same powers that took Rome down are at work here now ,but at an accelerated pace. Romes big mistake was to disarm its people thinking its Army could defend them . That is when the real invasions on her Territory's began.
Finally it just divided into east and west ,and what you said became a reality.
The lands her Army kept peace in became lands of many war lords fighting each other ,and eventually struck at the heart of what ever was left.
I have always heard historians say the biggest blunder was rendering the Pax Romana a useless Document,like our Bill of Rights and Constitution its what binded its people together in freedom ,and patriotism.
Our founding fathers used the Romania as a blue print to form a working Republic ,and added some things to make sure it didn't happen again.
You are right Dave ,you cant take a Republic and turn it into a socialist country and expect it to survive ,it has never worked.

 

[phalanx]

Dave do you ever feel like what the hell ? what ever any of us do isn't going to turn this around.
Disarming the US population isn't going to cure a thing ,its only going to make things worse.
For one thing Americans have always had certain things they could do ,and own. Without that not just gun owners ,but about everyone is going to go into massive withdraw.
Say they do get the guns ,it isn't going to stop the economic decline ,un employment will be so bad ,moral so low ,no one is going to feel like they belong to anything.
They will be looking for a Redeemer ,a dream to wish upon ,and it will be some state that has had enough and it will need to close its borders because we will be the illegals.
Australia got away with it for now ,but it has no borders ,and the memories that we will have of the way it was will haunt us forever.
And the what ifs ,and the how come will drive us Mad.

 

[blackrifles]

Wasn't it Einstein who said something like this? "Insanity is repeating the same experiment, over and over, getting the same results, and hoping for one that works."

PS: Please don't tell anyone I'm intelligent AND have common sense, I'd prefer elitists think I'm a dumb hillbilly.

 

[blackrifles]

Yes Phalanx, sometimes I do say "WTH?" and wonder if this country should fail, perhaps the only way to clean this mess quickly.

I will not let it drive me mad, for if it does, they have won. My grandfather predicted this time would come and provided some basic tools, we talked alot back in late 80's, I was just a dumb teen and took most for granted, now that I have a family and thousands of friends, his wise words echo through my mind daily.

 

[phalanx]

Dave your right , but it seems like with this election like it is people are already writing us off.
We are not like any other Country in the world in our thinking ,and the only one even close was Rome.
But Washington can say whatever it wants as to why this has come this far but we all know they are the reason.
No leader inspires us anymore , they are all corrupt and they don't care now who knows it as they toe tap in an airport bathroom.
Obama inspires ,but his vision is worse that that of the USSR.
McCain is such a dunce and he flip flops on everything and that is what makes the world fear him.
Any leader that emerges and spurs us on ,not to dreams , that point is to far gone now ,but to survival in hopes of having something left would even be better than this.
Its the knowing the SHTF is coming ,just when and how bad and will i be defenseless ,hungry ,and poor that has us all afraid.
Or if some country starts something and we get involved ,will it be like the Red Army in WW2 ,the Germans in front ,and Stalin in the rear.

 

[franks71vw]

Phalanx,

check your messges....my father does a good deal of the SW stuff, not a freak about it, but a good deal of it. i should put him in touch with you.

later

Nitro your here in south florida right?? let me knwo i am looking for a club to learn from and be able to take my tech license..

 

[nitrovieques]

Frank

Frank,


not been ignoring you...but for some reason every time i start to pm someone the web site will no longer alow me to log in..so i have to go to another computer....pain in the butt and very strange.....

anyway im in Texas....but i like Florida.... anyway contact me via my site if you want to visit my father.

the site is very new, not finished and if you don't have the font it will show up really weird...but, it has my contact info.

bonettiexplosives.com

later

 

[Dave S]

From what I'm gathering I could turn the barbed wire fence around the cow pasture into a antenna.
Phanlax, I have run across the tube type units but didn't know if spare parts could be had anymore, now I know. Thanks. You also mention about receiving broadcasts out of Russia, are they in English or the native tongue?

Yes... you CAN turn that barbed wire fence into an antenna. There are a myriad of things that you can use. Some folks use a magnet mount antenna put on the top of their refrigerator

Sorry about the thread-jacking that you suffered there... but use whatever is available and cheap. Gutters, downspouts, fences, TV antenna... you name it, and it'll be better than what is poking off the back for the RX side of communications!

HTH,
Dave