[Rory]

not sure how many of you pay attention to this stuff, but the answer is still to hold on to your beer cans and scrap brass. prices took a pretty serious drop over the past couple weeks. my scrap aluminum price dropped by around %40 from most of my vendors.

the question is, how much do you think that this will have an impact on ammo prices... if at all?

oil prices are down the dollar is trying to climb and metals prices are down a lot and in the end people are pretty broke so the demand is a bit lower. could this mean cheaper ammo?

man i hope so.... if only i had any extra money when it becomes available.

 

[phalanx]

I hadn't noticed Rory ! did you happen to see what precious Metals were doing also in the speculation markets ?
I looked this morning and the price of Gold hasn't changed , but i went and looked at the bulk commodity index and you are right.
Metals used for industrious salvage are down by 12% .
Even so it could take weeks for the effect to benefit the consumer , and then only if Competition forces the end product down.

 

[Rory]

well from what i am getting from my scrap guys this is going to go on for a couple months. gold was already starting to fall but that was because it spiked far to fast and too high. the real need for copper and aluminum will make them rebound after they find their floor but wow i was shocked at how much it dropped and by the speed in which it did so. on the lower end i was getting 70-80 cents a pound for my scrap aluminum and about the same for my plastic encased coppers (wire will all ends and crap still on it) hell even sheet steel i was at 11-12 cents a pound. new prices are 40 cents for aluminum no price given for copper (they were not sure where it would land today so they did not want to make an offer) and the sheet steel was down to 7.5 cents. those are HUGE drops.

 

[blackrifles]

Rory,

Really doesn't matter if price of metals drop, the ammo will still be high. US production and importation cannot meet current demand, every gun owner I know is buying up ammo, no sign of slowing down.

 

[franks71vw]

Iam with blackrifles here, again like everything in the past consumptions keeps going up and their are little resources to be had. The world diesnt recycles as much as it should specially with metals...

 

[GUNRUNNER5150]

all that aside, manufacturers/retailers know we will pay the current price, so even if production increases and meets the demand i dont see the price dropping (at least for new production ammo). Some surplus may drop a bit being that scrapping the components wouldnt be as fruitful as importing and selling it as ammo.

Just my thoughts

GR

 

[phalanx]

Thats why i said Competition forces , Ammo is in bigger demand than oil right now it seems. On Friday i have got to go to a school on distribution and supply in the event of a gas war.
Some Oil is selling for $104.00 PB this morning.
When it hit that once before gas went down to $1.65 PG , you wanna bet you will not see that ?

 

[Rory]

i was speculating a bit on crappy surplus
that is what i want to get cheaper.

 

[storage_man]

The reason that the price of scrap metals has gone down over the past few weeks, was because of China. During the olympics, they foreced a shut down of over 60% of their MFG (for the sake of cleaner air - Yeah right). I'll bet the prices will be backup again in a couple of weeks.

 

[Rory]

The reason that the price of scrap metals has gone down over the past few weeks, was because of China. During the olympics, they foreced a shut down of over 60% of their MFG (for the sake of cleaner air - Yeah right). I'll bet the prices will be backup again in a couple of weeks.

i knew about that and there are other issues but the shut down did create a small backlog/surplus for the chinese smelters.

 

[xdevildog]

Well, Rory, call me a pessimist but I bet ammo prices will go down about as fast in relation to bulk metals pricing as gas prices have gone down in relation to the daily cost of crude oil - not very damn much.

 

[Rory]

not pessimistic at all. totally realistic. damn dirty rats

 

[Shattered]

So stop buying ammo. Look what happened to oil prices when people stopped all but necessary driving.

If they don't sell ammo, they don't eat. Stop buying. The prices will drop.

 

[Rory]

i keep trying but i am hooked!

 

[Shattered]

We gotta wean you offa ammo. Get some Ninja gear... you can practice on the Gnomes..

 

[btwiest]

I don't think anyone is going to stop buying ammo, especially if the price were to drop at all.

 

[phalanx]

I hope the price drop's on Ammo ,and corrugated tin siding ,have you guys had to buy any of that crap lately ???
A 10 foot sheet went from $8.00 to $28.00 in just 3 years , We are repairing a Barn and it is starting to add up real fast.
So i looked at that crappy Masonite siding ,that trash is $24.00 a sheet.
They have a hard time selling it though ,people remember the houses in the late 80s built with that and how it came apart like cardboard.

 

[blackrifles]

Same thing with fuel to Saiga 12s, within a few yrs prices have tripled in most cases, as long as people are willing to pay high prices the price will only climb. Distributors/importers bottleneck (control) the supply, you can raise prices until most people no longer want it, when it's not moving, they will be forced to drop prices until it does.

 

[sdk1968]

yeah they raped me on a saiga 12 too. LOL