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I'm looking for the traverse stops for the Browning 1917 tripod base.

I picked up a tripod base/leg set at the SAR show and it has the groove for these stops.

Pictured are stops on Lucky#13's Browning 1917 tripod for reference.


If you have one or a pair of these please let me know. PM me here or post in this thread.



 

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I would be interested in making these if a drawing or sample is available
 

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Is this an M1917 or an M1917A1 tripod?

My 1940 RIA M1917A1 tripod has no groove. But, it sure is groovy.





To my knowledge, yours is a 1917a1.

It is groovy indeed! :D

I'll post pics of mine in a minute. It is similar to the one pictured in the Small Arms Review article pictures, but there are three variants of that tripod that mine is none of:
1) Tripod base/socket has traverse worm gear and handle (super rare)(pictured above)
2) Tripod base/socket has traverse worm gear but no handle or worm gear and the holes are covered with steel inserts (like engine block plugs) (rare)
3) Tripod base/socket has traverse worm gear but it is cast solid so just appears as a "hump" (most common)​

Someone please correct me if I'm off base. :)D bad pun!)
 

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Here is the tripod base/leg set that I just acquired.

What makes it different from a 1917 tripod base/leg set:
-- It does not have the traverse worm gear "hump" or holes with plugs

What makes it different from a 1917a1 tripod base/leg set:
-- It has the groove for 1917 tripod traverse stops
-- The tripod head/socket is uniformly cast, top to bottom like a 1917, whereas the 1917a1 tripod head/sockets narrow at the bottom presumably to save material and weight at the base of the head/socket. (see last two pictures compared to 1917a1 tripod bases)











 

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Mr. Maim and I discussed this at SAR. As I interpret the pertinent chapter in Dolf Vol. I, it appears that production had begun on the 1917 tripods when the desire for the fine, worm gear traverse mechanism was implemented. Production stopped while this was being created and introduced to the casting. Then, it seems the idea did not gain favor so, during the late production period, they stopped putting the mechanism in. If that theory is correct, it explains why there are sockets with the hump and cavity cast in, like on my tripod pictured in the OP, but the finish machining was not done for the worm gear. Then there are those where the mechanism was removed, or at least the pocket had been finish machined, and a freeze plug set up was used to seal the openings. I have a socket like that as well.

What makes a unique find, however, is a socket that has the groove for the traverse stops- as would all WWI 1917 sockets- but does not have the cast in hump. That suggests to me that it is the very early production. The example Mr. Maim found is only the second I have seen like that. Might be the rarest variation.

Of course, the rarest of all is the early cradle, which usually is found only with a very expensive transferable 1917 C&R. Most of those 1917 cradles were scrapped, with replacement by a 1917A1 cradle which was adopted in the mid 30s. So, finding the early lower with the late cradle is normal.

To greaser, I will get with you on the specs. Could use another set or two myself.
 

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Would those stops be correct on the tripod I picked up at the SAR show as well? I would like to get this one as complete as possible. I am also guessing this should have the brass ring too?

I also need to track down the stops for the M35 Colt tripod I got. Product Auto part Wheel Machine Rim
 

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Would those stops be correct on the tripod I picked up at the SAR show as well? I would like to get this one as complete as possible. I am also guessing this should have the brass ring too?

I also need to track down the stops for the M35 Colt tripod I got. View attachment 85183
Yep, looks like you got the proper socket, but obviously there is some work ahead to restore the groove all around the circumference. Does yours have the hump for the worm gear traverse?
 

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Yep, looks like you got the proper socket, but obviously there is some work ahead to restore the groove all around the circumference. Does yours have the hump for the worm gear traverse?
Yes, please post a side view of the socket!

@h46pedro has the M35 stops reproduced. His pictures are not working but I assure you they are exacting and perfect. I just ordered a pair myself after inventorying my tripods and discovering my M35 has a broken/jammed/buggared up stop.

Send him a PM.

https://1919a4.com/showthread.php?5...lt-1928-Tripod-Traverse-stop-85-00-(per-stop)
 

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You will have to excuse my ignorance. I am new to these. What am I looking for?
No apologies or excuses necessary!

If you take (and post) a side picture of your tripod head/socket, like the last of my six pictures, we can see whether or not there is a "hump".


Here is Ian of Forgotten Weapons with a 1917 sitting on a 1917 tripod. There is a hole in the tripod head/socket just above the legs. That is where the worm gear would have gone. Look above to one of my earlier posts where I list the three types of 1917 tripod leg sets and their head/socket differences.




Here is a picture of one with the plugs covering the holes for the deleted traverse worm gear.

Credit: Craig Johnson of Handcartz
 

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Hope I dont insult but this Tripod looks like a reweld from Sarco and I only say that because people were getting kits with 1917A1 and 1917 sockets in the same cut up kits.

1917 on the left, m35 on right
 

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I dont mind you gave me credit. Dont mind if people use pics and dont give credit. Sort of annoying when they post a pic of a one of a kind photo and they say its theirs. Its all good.
 

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Hope I dont insult but this Tripod looks like a reweld from Sarco and I only say that because people were getting kits with 1917A1 and 1917 sockets in the same cut up kits.



No insult at all, I bought it as a shooter but a collector piece, definitely been rewelded but the legs look intact. I got it from another board member at SAR show.
 
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