[bigblock]

I have Two complete Back plates from Izzy kits. They are in typical parts kit condition but are a little unusual. The buffer asy is the normal length but the grip is short and doesnt have the cut out for the T&E so there just flat on the bottom. $45.00 each shipped.
thanks

 

[Lucky#13]

Sounds like the WWII 1917A1 style. Do they look like this?

 

[bigblock]

Yes they look exactly like that. Please dont tell me there worth mega bucks!

 

[Alliedarmament2008]

No they are very prevelant. Lucky knows the rare ones! He's seen my handful of two pice steel world war I versions with the safety latch.

 

[Lucky#13]

James, you sneaking in on Ryan's account again? Yes, and I thank you for letting me rub my paws over those rarities!

bigblock, that is correct. Those short cast ones are common enough.

 

[AW-SIM]

Safety latch

Lucky, do you have a picture of one with the safety latch? I've got one with a safety latch, but now you've got my curiosity going.

 

[Dan @ Angola Armory]

The two piece ones with the black painted aluminum grips are the earliest style of 1919a4 backplates, a re-use of existing 1917a1 frames. Only semi rare as we have quite a few held back.
Dan

 

[Lucky#13]

AW-SIM, here are a couple pics, one with the safety in place and one with it removed so you can see the machined slot and notches. This one belongs to a member of this board, but is not mine. Hope he doesn't mind my posting this, but he will remain anonymous. I do have a couple of examples, but with no safety. This is the only example with a safety I have seen, but I am sure a couple more have survived. The soldiers kept throwing them away, so eventually procedures were changed and they were no longer fitted. These original 1917 back plates are certainly are rare, with or without the safety itself.

Dan, since I just saw you slipped in there, I believe the aluminum grip first appeared with the 1919A2 cavalry gun, and so was indeed the first version used on the A4.

 

[AW-SIM]

Semi-rare?

Thanks, Dan.

Glad to know they're only semi-rare 'cause last year I probably cut 30 of 'em up for AW-SIM's

Can you give Bigblock and me an education on the "really rare" back plates so we know what to look for.

 

[Dan @ Angola Armory]

The REALLY rare ones are what Rollin posted above, with the safety notches. I have only a few in the reference collection, usually with walnut or bakelite grips.
Dan

 

[AW-SIM]

Good info

I'll know what to look for in the future. The one I have looks like a normal 1919 all steel backplate, but has a safety on it that blocks the trigger. Ever seen one like that before?

 

[Dan @ Angola Armory]

Could be a 1928 Argentine backplate or a domestic semi alteration.
Dan

 

[AW-SIM]

Semi-alteration

My guess is a semi-alteration. But I wouldn't have even had a guess without the info. Thanks.

 

[Dan @ Angola Armory]

Pics would help.
Dan

 

[AW-SIM]

Pics

I'll get the camera out tomorrow.

 

[Dan @ Angola Armory]

Is it a sliding block that is screwed to the backplate? That is without a doubt a domestic alteration.
Dan

 

[hotchkissmtrifle]

OK, I have squented and squented at Luckys pic. Are those safety dealys a slide in a dovetail with a protursion to catch your finger on or what? I am going to have to dig out my manuals and look. Thanks for posting, Hotch

 

[Lucky#13]

OK, I have squented and squented at Luckys pic. Are those safety dealys a slide in a dovetail with a protursion to catch your finger on or what? I am going to have to dig out my manuals and look. Thanks for posting, Hotch

Hotch, I'll e-mail you more info on that.

 

[bigblock]

Thanks to someone who brought up this thread again, I think you got my last back plate sold!

 

[slipin & slidin]

Thanks Joe
I'll send money order and copy of PM tomorrow.