[dkennedy]

I'm looking for a WW1 Vickers parts kit. I have a WW2 kit that I would be happy to trade in part for the WW1 kit.

Thanks!
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[Outdoordave]

There's a fluted jacket dummy Vickers on gunbroker now - along with a pitted fluted jacket. You don't see them offered much.

 

[OldSoldier]

I've had 3 dummy fluted jacket guns. 2 of the 3 proved not suitable for building and I sold them. The first had pin-hole size rust holes in the jacket. The second, while looking good, had a large shallow dent next to the end cap that prevented a watertight seal. Lou looked at it and suggested it was not economically repairable. The third was a previous pristine 8mm Turkish parts kit that was dummied by IMA. Brian Penley expertly removed the welds from the Turkish dummy and I build this into a semi. My point is that you need to be careful when purchasing a fluted jacket dummy gun with the idea of rebuilding it. My success rate was 1 out of 3.

 

[redroth]

There's a fluted jacket dummy Vickers on gunbroker now - along with a pitted fluted jacket. You don't see them offered much.

The badly pitted fluted jacket that is on GB (Auction # 475400352) is a WWI jacket and suitable for a dummy gun only (IMHO).

 

[30calmachinegunner]

.gunbroker Item=476756419

The jacket is NOT pitted, no heavy paint hiding stuff, one of the nicest jackets I've seen

 

[OldSoldier]

I respect Brian's (30calmachinegunner) judgement. He build 2 Vickers for me. One being from the dummied Turkish gun. If the jacket he mentions below is nicer than the Turkish jacket, it is nice and likely very buildable.

.gunbroker Item=476756419

The jacket is NOT pitted, no heavy paint hiding stuff, one of the nicest jackets I've seen

 

[Outdoordave]

476756419 on GB was the dummy I was referring to - it has a steel feed block too - nice addition. Unfortunately you would still need a left side plate and unmodified internals. When all is said and done the parts to build a fluted jacket semi starting with with a dummy (costing $2100) would be $2500 at least. Notwithstanding the majority of parts on most Vickers kits will be WW2 Australian and quite possibly DP to begin with.

That being said there is something romantic about a fluted jacket Vickers on a pod.

 

[OldSoldier]

476756419 on GB was the dummy I was referring to - it has a steel feed block too - nice addition. Unfortunately you would still need a left side plate and unmodified internals. When all is said and done the parts to build a fluted jacket semi starting with with a dummy (costing $2100) would be $2500 at least. Notwithstanding the majority of parts on most Vickers kits will be WW2 Australian and quite possibly DP to begin with.

That being said there is something romantic about a fluted jacket Vickers on a pod.

My additional cost, not including the dummy gun, of starting with a dummy fluted jacket as compared to using an IMA Lithgow kit was:

Left side plate = $300
Interior recoil plates (action arms) = $60 (Use the existing crank)
Removing the welds = $100 (can be done by the individual)
Barrel = $85
Lock = $250

Total additional cost compared to starting with a clean Vickers IMA kit = $795

I made a little money reselling the two other fluted jacket dummies that were not suitable for the build. Since I began with a Turkish kit none of the parts were DP marked.

I might suggest that like most military weapons used in and maintained during WWI and WWII, I doubt that by the end of service there were many with all original component parts.

 

[30calmachinegunner]

476756419 on GB was the dummy I was referring to - it has a steel feed block too - nice addition. Unfortunately you would still need a left side plate and unmodified internals. When all is said and done the parts to build a fluted jacket semi starting with with a dummy (costing $2100) would be $2500 at least. Notwithstanding the majority of parts on most Vickers kits will be WW2 Australian and quite possibly DP to begin with.

That being said there is something romantic about a fluted jacket Vickers on a pod.

The price is $1800 unless you do the "buy it now" or someone else raises the bid

 

[dkennedy]

Thanks guys, this will be a parts kit to build up with a registered side plate, so starting with something truly excellent is probably worth the time and money to find the nicest one I can.

 

[30calmachinegunner]

Anyone wanting better pictures let me know

 

[OldSoldier]

Anyone wanting better pictures let me know

I'm just curious, what's the SN?

 

[30calmachinegunner]

L6251 is what's stamped at the top rear of the jacket/trunnion

 

[OldSoldier]

L6251 is what's stamped at the top rear of the jacket/trunnion

The trunnion was manufactured in June 1916.

 

[dkennedy]

Possibly should have started this thread by asking the group, if you had a registered side plate, what Vickers would you build?

 

[Rory]

If I had a plate I would buy Brian's kit. I was so depressed when I had to build mine with a smooth jacket.


R

 

[OldSoldier]

If I had a plate I would buy Brian's kit. I was so depressed when I had to build mine with a smooth jacket.


R

I have a spare right and left.... I should add SA rsp.

 

[Rory]

I no longer have a transferable plate.

Have a tractor cap maxim that's getting the postie treatment very soon.