[master22nl]

mabay any of you heared about finding stuff from ww2 every were in europe, well found a small movie wich shows you they stil find stuff.
for your info, the people you see in this film, and NO goverment demolitian people, just call them SOUVENIR HUNTERS, they just go for the collectible brass shells, thats it, if you ask me they dont care playing with their lives.
good thing is they are far away from innocent people , on the water one mile out of the coast, have fun looking !!!
http://beeli001.hyves.nl/fotos/157186432/0/gxc_/

 

[blkbd]

Yeah!! I have a great idea! let bang on the high explosive projectile with a 2lbs sledge hammer. That reminds me of the famous red neck saying "Here hold my beer and watch this"

That is a bit freaky when the projo blew off from the shell , But can someone confirm if this is a high explosive round or just a drill or target practice round that is solid and no explosive?

 

[SgtRock]

God! How stupid can you get?

 

[IMBLITZVT]

Why does the war head "explode" out of the brass? Were they pressurizing it? I assume thats the explosive they pulled out of it? You have to forgive me, I have never really seen much on these big bullets

You know it does make me wonder every time I hear it. If I bullet sits underwater for 50 years... I do not think there would be much concern of it going off just from handling it. Ok now you pound on side of the bullet... still no real problem. So I am guessing they are not worried about anything BUT the war head going off...??? Please correct me if I am wrong here.

So now we are just talking about the war head. Now not having any true knowledge on the subject I thought they had to be armed before they are dangerous? I mean unless you are burning it, if its unarmed its not going to do much right? Thats how they move them around without real danger... after all the back of a duce is not an easy ride... So maybe you are making the assumption that they are not armed (for better or worse)... I really do not see the HUGE danger (Not that I would do it myself or ever suggest it).

Now if they were armed... are they still a real danger after being underwater for that long? Will the water tight part of the warhead really keep the water out for that long?

Boy that was a lot... I am just trying to understand the real danger or see if this is just something to make it seem more dangerous for TV...

 

[c322348]

If these things have been on the bottom of the ocean/lake for 60+ years, have they equalized at the pressure at that depth? If they are brought to the surface maybe they have a slight air pressure inside of them that causes the projectile to pop out with a little coaxing?

 

[Kojak]

These guys are out of their minds!

For all the effort of taking a dive on such a beautiful day, towards what end are they bringing live ordnance to the surface? Are there gold parts in the warhead? Perhaps platinum primers?

 

[PKw VI Tiger1]

It was air pressure that forced the projectile out. I'm sure that the way they took the projectile out is about the safest way to do it (they weren't hitting it very hard just enough to loosen the rust) I probably wouldn't have risked it though. The cash they make from selling the shells (88mm flak) to tourists is what they're after. You can see one of them chucking one of the bullets overboard near the end.

 

[master22nl]

more explenation

most of your guess were right, because the shells were at a 30 meter dept wich is about 90 feet, and for almost 60 years, the presure inside the shells is the same as at a dept of 90 feet
from waht I understood, the shells have some sort of ''overpressure'' of 3 to 4 bar (psi).
notice that the guy who uses the hamer is hitting the shell at the place were the projectile is in the shell.
when listening to the comments in the movie, I can hear one guy saying to the other: " do you hear that air escape??, it wil pop out in a moment''
and indeed, after hitting the shell a few times more the projectile comes off
they also show the cordite powder bag, wich is stil super DRY !!!
also the inside of the shell looks like new, proving that NO water came in the shell for all 60 years it was at the bottom of the sea.
you can also see that the loaded projectiles are been trowing overboard again
they are only going for the shells, wich proberly wil be sold as collectible shells at militaru shows.
I actually cant tell you iff the projectiles were armed ore not,they proberly had explosives in it, but because the boat was sincked my best guess is that it was a german transport ship, and normally rounds were not made live during transport.
but I agree with others, I like watching those guyss, but I wouldn't do it myself !!! john

 

[fjruple]

Potential future nominees for the annual Darwin Award.

--fjruple

 

[FloridaAKM]

I have seen some crazy stuff before about divers, but this takes the cake. I wonder who was the first one to figure out how to take the shell apart?

 

[174th gunner]

what?

what are they smokin!! WOW

 

[ttpete]

It could be 88 mm antitank SHOT. There's no bursting charge, just a solid tungsten steel projectile with copper rotating bands and bourrelet.

 

[nitrovieques]

rounds

i have pulled up a few rounds before...my experiance has been that decaying powder swelled and popped the rounds off...but theirs was dry...dunno..but i do make a living digging up old rounds and yes they can go off even after 60 years...but these rounds are still in the casing and not fired so since they have not undergone setback and spin from the rifle then i would call them un armed....they do have fuzes on them..or perhaps they are shipping plugs..cant quite tell from the video...but anyway in all actuallity what they are doing is not that dangerous...it only looks that way to the outsider. i have pulled up MK 118 sub munitions those are a whole different story and any Marine EOD will tell you Subs are baaaaaddd..but when you do it right, like anything else...its chance of det are reduced.

seems a shame to throw that good HE overboard.....

 

[gregolver]

it only takes one

 

[boss429]

Yea, that looks like great fun! Hey honey, pass me a beer, it's in my LazyBoy armrest frig.
They must be doing it for fun I don't see the outside of that shell being in the best collectable condition but it would be great story of the find and living to tell about it. Looks to me the coolist thing is the inner paper wrapper with the original markings I would keep that.

 

[scotty1418]

I was expecting a little more carelessness after reading all the posts. As mentioned, I think it was only the pressure that seperated the shells. They also were simply hammering around the separation between the shell and charge to seperate the two, not just banging away at the 'warhead'.

Granted I wouldn't do it, but it doesn't look like the most DANGEROUS thing I've seen...now those RUSSIAN videos of diggers chucking rounds into piles, that's scary.

Scott

Cool vid.